Typically England supporters are a more wider and general bunch. Encompassing fans who just tune in for summer tournaments, which is fine, but that's when reporting gets more general too and degrades in quality and becomes misleading, imo
Can't the problem be traced to academies and Premiership demands (i.e. football must be fast and exciting)?
Youngsters learn kick and rush football rather than focusing on close control and ball retention. As a result, they can run up the pitch and kick the ball hard, but lack the skill exhibited by Spain, France, Italy, and the best South American teams.
Without fundamental change at grass roots level, this cycle will perpetuate for generations. England are dinosaurs on the world stage and seem eternally wed to an outmoded and unsophisticated style of play.
Irrespective of the manager, when was the last time England played with flair or artistry? I can't recall a single occasion. They may show flashes of good play against very poor teams, but whenever England faces a team with even a degree of class, the game becomes embarrassing to watch.
Other teams dance around England, while our overpaid Premiership stars are penned into their own half, furiously throwing players in the ball's path. On the rare occasions England intercept, they can't keep the ball due to the abovementioned lack of close control and inability to pass. In a desperate effort to avoid conceding, English players resort to long ball tactics, conceding possession rather than building play and forcing the opposition to work. This goes some way toward explaining why England is incapable of putting in a semi-decent second half performance. After 45 minutes ball chasing, energy levels drop markedly, meaning the team is picked off by fresher players with greater skill.
England's unimaginative, tub thumping travelling brass section (compared with the Brazilian Samba rhythm) says it all; the music becomes emblematic of the one-dimensional football played.
Without a mentality shift at academy level, expect more of the same for decades.
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This ↑ is probably the earliest cause to all of England's problems. What's astonishing is that this shift in mentality seems to only be coming in to popular opinion now and the massive delays to St george's Park were looked at merely a bump in the road. Other countries have long been devloping young players the right way such as Clairefontaine and La Masia. Talented technical players like Paul Gascoigne, to Joe Cole are in spite of the system not because of it.
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So we might see mild-to-moderate improvement in about 15 year's time.
It's certainly a step in the right direction.
Were measures not put in place about a year ago that restricted the pitch sizes for younger age groups or did I dream that?
I must be watching a different game
Has Danny Wellbeck not got a gifted first touch,great turn of pace and a fair share of stamina...oh and a wee slice of flair?
Is Jack Wiltshire not a midfield gem,great control..penetration and good with both feet?
Chris Smalling...hrmmm what was it non-league less than 5 seasons ago?
Alex-oxlade Chamberline...now theres a talanted winger...surley?
Joe Hart...most pundits rate him as one of the best in world football,no?
My point is that we have and we always will have a very talented core of players that are pushing thru into the starting 11.
ST Georges park is for the development of coaches and sports science under one roof.
I must be watching a different set of players becouse all i can see is skill,pace,flair and strength.
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But not skilful, fast or strong enough to be able to retain possession against Montenegro!
Was that not a lack of concentration or similar?
Stevey G for example couldn't find a 4yrd pass all second half
Heard a good point on talk sport this afta'(relating to goal-line tech)if Lampard's fantastic goal against Germany had stood(and we were playing well)we would have pulled it back to 2-2 which would have meant coming out for the 2nd half with the momentum...and maybe the confidance would have energized the likes of shrek....who know's what might have happened
I think the point is that other players are more talented than our crop. I agree that all you listed are talented but all have their flaws too.
Welbeck - there are plenty of much technically better players with stamina. Pace is a much overrated attribute, a common one too.
Smalling - decent but nothing special. John Stead had a pretty big jump up the leagues, good achievement but doesn't mean much in the scheme of things.
St George's Park is more than a central hub for developing coaches and sports science.
England teams from most levels will train and develop there. I achievement there will be camps and trail days throughout the year and especially in summer months.
Of course they have their flaws...they are all under 22(i think and the names are just examples)
My point is that a or our national team(England i this case) needs to play and think as a team.
Messi attribute his success to his teamates,that system allows him to fullfill his potential.
We don't have a Messi,but we do have skillfull tactile players that if flourish together as a team can fullfill their collective potential.
But there are other nations with young players better than the ones we have coming through.
We've had man motivators and and tacticians, the problems are deeper than just the mentality of the squad not playing for one another.
What has other nations got to do with our players...?
You saying that all of our players are inferior to them,that talent only occurs anywhere but the UK?
As for coaching it is no different over there than hear....not my words but that from a pro working in Norway,but having spent time in most of Europe(again a convo on the radio...sorry)
Well I'm looking at this discussion in terms of England performing at competitions. So if other nation have better players the're more likely to win. That's why I mention them.
I can't speak about that as I havn't heard it. But I think there is also plenty of evidence to suggest that a lot of our coaching is different. Teaching our youngsters to play the game a different way.
Theres also the sheer number of coaches involved compared to other countries. This report is a little old but I doubt the numbers have changed that much.
It just shows how thinly our coaches are spread.
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