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.....in its iOS 5 update. Notification centre, Lock screen (copied from HTC Sense UI), Twitter integration, OTA update, tabbed browsing...

 

Double standards, considering Apple sues others left, right & centre for copying, latest being Samsung.

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I would not give house room to any Apple product. Over rated and overpriced.

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Features Google stole from apple whilst Googles CEO Eric Schmidt was on Apples board of Directors: Android. Android was a blackberry clone before iPhone. Nuff said. Why do you think google are so far behind in tablets? Because Eric was not privy to iPad meetings, at all. Tabbed browsing is hardly a google property, especially since chrome is based on Apples open source technology. The fundamental thing being ripped off is multi touch, Apple have a lot of patents.

Secondly, features Google stole from Oracle as Eric Schmidt was very senior in Sun? Huge chunks of java underpinning the operating system...

We are not talking small features here, fundamental system architectures.

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All software companies "borrow" features from other software companies - if they're good ideas they'd be silly not to. Speak to a MS fan and they'll happily list all features Apple copied from Microsoft, and vice versa - the same is now happening with Google - they should be flattered!

And implementing a similar feature and copying a patent without paying the rights to do so are two very different things, simply because one is protected by law. Is it too easy to be granted a ridiculously generic patent in the US? Absolutely, but it is still law none the same. I'm pretty sure though that sometimes these companies recognise they're using or going to use something which has been patented by another company, so they sue the company for something they have patented, just so an agreement can be worked out between the two. These things rarely go to court, it's just a form of negotiation.

 

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Tabbed browsing is hardly a google property, especially since chrome is based on Apples open source technology.

Wasn't Mozilla the first to introduce tabbed browsing with Firefox (or whatever it was called back then)? So everyone is copying them when it comes to that one.

EDIT - my bad, looks like NetCaptor was the first one to implement it - so everyone copied Adam Stiles, the developer of this!

 

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Why do you think google are so far behind in tablets?

Because Google don't make hardware?

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Paul Hobbs wrote:
Why do you think google are so far behind in tablets?

Because Google don't make hardware?

 

They make Tablet operating systems though, don't they. And how long before they screw their Tablet partners in the same way they tried to screw their Phone partners with the Nexus?

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professorhat wrote:

Paul Hobbs wrote:
Tabbed browsing is hardly a google property, especially since chrome is based on Apples open source technology.

Wasn't Mozilla the first to introduce tabbed browsing with Firefox (or whatever it was called back then)? So everyone is copying them when it comes to that one. 

EDIT - my bad, looks like NetCaptor was the first one to implement it - so everyone copied Adam Stiles, the developer of this!

 

 

Sorry, wasn't trying to claim apple ownership of tabs, just poor wording on my part.  Just pointing out Googles browser 'history'.

 

 

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All software companies "borrow" features from other software companies - if they're good ideas they'd be silly not to. Speak to a MS fan and they'll happily list all features Apple copied from Microsoft, and vice versa - the same is now happening with Google - they should be flattered!

 

 

Its worth pointing out however that Apple gave Xerox a massive chunk of shares in exchange for its little GUI peep show.  Microsoft gave Apple nothing other than broken promises.  As much as I respect Steve Jobs, its peculiar (and slightly embarrassing) to watch history repeat it self.  Apple gave a working copy of everything it had to Microsoft, so they could develop for the platform.  They proceeded to rip it off.  Cue 2005, Apple give everything they had to Google so they can develop for it... See where the trend is going?

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Paul Hobbs wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

Paul Hobbs wrote:
Why do you think google are so far behind in tablets?

Because Google don't make hardware?

They make Tablet operating systems though, don't they. And how long before they screw their Tablet partners in the same way they tried to screw their Phone partners with the Nexus?

You've lost me now, I was under the impression android phone sales were doing quite well, the Nexus just being one of them.

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I would not give house room to any Apple product. Over rated and overpriced.

 

Wouldn`t say over rated but definetely overpriced.

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Android sales are doing well, but generally speaking, competing against your customers is generally seen as

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.  Google anounced the Nexus in the US months before it came out, at about the time the Motorola Droid was available for sale.  Motorola, one of Androids launch partners, got

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Buisnes is business, I get that.  I don't pretend Apple is on some kind of moral high ground.  Its just Googles hypocritical 'Don't be evil' hubris irks me.  I am irked.  (sorry, I love this word, I don't get to say it enough.  Irked Smile )

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Android sales are doing well, but generally speaking, competing against your customers is generally seen as screwing.  Google anounced the Nexus in the US months before it came out, at about the time the Motorola Droid was available for sale.  Motorola, one of Androids launch partners, got screwed.

Hmm, according to sales figures I found, across the first 75 days of release the Droid outsold the Nexus by nearly ten to one. I wish I could get screwed like that.

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Paul Hobbs wrote:
Features Google stole from apple whilst Googles CEO Eric Schmidt was on Apples board of Directors: Android. Android was a blackberry clone before iPhone. Nuff said. Why do you think google are so far behind in tablets? Because Eric was not privy to iPad meetings, at all. Tabbed browsing is hardly a google property, especially since chrome is based on Apples open source technology. The fundamental thing being ripped off is multi touch, Apple have a lot of patents. Secondly, features Google stole from Oracle as Eric Schmidt was very senior in Sun? Huge chunks of java underpinning the operating system... We are not talking small features here, fundamental system architectures. (Runs and hides in a cave before the backlash, and patiently waits for iPad wifi mirroring to my ATV2 Smile )

Sharing technology is good for everyone. But my point is, why does Apple sue everyone willy nilly? Suing Samsung for having curved edges on its Galaxy tablets & phones is frivolous. It's bullying, don't you agree? Yes, even others are in the suing business, but not as much as Apple.

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Paul Hobbs wrote:

Android sales are doing well, but generally speaking, competing against your customers is generally seen as

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Google anounced the Nexus in the US months before it came out, at about the time the Motorola Droid was available for sale.  Motorola, one of Androids launch partners, got

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Buisnes is business, I get that.  I don't pretend Apple is on some kind of moral high ground.  Its just Googles hypocritical 'Don't be evil' hubris irks me.  I am irked.  (sorry, I love this word, I don't get to say it enough.  Irked Smile )

I'm quite fond of 'hubris'.

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Sharing technology is good for everyone. But my point is, why does Apple sue everyone willy nilly? Suing Samsung for having curved edges on its Galaxy tablets & phones is frivolous. It's bullying, don't you agree? Yes, even others are in the suing business, but not as much as Apple.

 

 

It goes a little further than curved edges...  They have taken the whol look and feel.  Maybe if Samsung innovated outside of its manufacturing capabilities it would have something worth litigating over.  Samsung make some fantastic products, but when was the last time they defined a market?

 

As someone who has worked in product design, I don't think we are going to agree on this one.  :)

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Paul Hobbs wrote:

Android sales are doing well, but generally speaking, competing against your customers is generally seen as screwing.  Google anounced the Nexus in the US months before it came out, at about the time the Motorola Droid was available for sale.  Motorola, one of Androids launch partners, got screwed.

Hmm, according to sales figures I found, across the first 75 days of release the Droid outsold the Nexus by nearly ten to one. I wish I could get screwed like that.

 

 

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They make Tablet operating systems though, don't they. And how long before they screw their Tablet partners in the same way they tried to screw their Phone partners with the Nexus?

 

I said tried, didn't say they succeeded Smile  

 

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