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JohnDuncan:
The 'rubbish' was mischief, pure and simple. I'm looking for objective views...........



OK, how about this.

Elvis was the first person to popularise the mix of white country and black blues that came to be known as rock and roll. This opened up worlds of music previously taboo to both sides of a cultural divide. There were others doing the same thing, but he was the one (with the help of Col Parker) who made this heady mix widely available to a new generation with increasing financial independence. That is why, in cultural terms, he is great.

The fact that he had a great voice can almost be considered a happy by-product in this context.
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Drummerdave - but Motorhead's often just fast Elvis!! I defy anyone to say Elvis couldn't have done a version of "Going To Brazil"....!



Well - yes, modern rock music all stemmed from rhythm & blues / rock n roll, but Elvis wan't the first to do it
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Andrew Everard:

The Stones and - latterly - The Who were always much better than The Beatles.



Hold that thought...
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" Before Elvis.....There was Nothing"......John Lennon


" Before The Beatles....There was Elvis".....Tallyho


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main.jhtml?xml=/arts/2007/08/16/nosplit/bmelvis116.xml


Even in death his albums still continue to sell widely across the world in their millions

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Even if you hate Elvis' music (which is an odd statement, being as it varies so incredibly, encapsulating a wide range of genres), it can't be ignored that the man had passion, and put his heart and soul into even the throwaway tracks he (too often - thanks Col Parker) sang.

That's what I love in a singer - the sense that they're feeling the words, the meaning of a song. They may not have written the song, but they can often better realise the songwriter's intentions than you'd imagine, and/or raise something quite ordinary into the extraordinary.

There were and are more technically adept or lyrically sophisticated performers around, but so often they leave you cold as there isn't that emotion...

Elvis on stage 

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There, that's what I'm looking for - reasoned explanations..........

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Here is a question and please be honest. How many of you have played an Elvis song via vinyl/cd/mp3/etc., in the last 6 months??

I would never be so pig headed as to say he was rubbish - I can't be right and everyone else wrong - however, there is not one song of his that I have even the slightest inclination of listening to over any number of songs at my disposal.

And Andrew, please include one of your famous "imho" when saying that the Stones and the Who were better than Ringo and Co. The Stones produced some corkers as did the Who but overall I prefer the Beatles. Can any of these lot touch the songs of Radiohead though? In Rainbows as shocked me by even bettering Ok Computer.

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  Can any of these lot touch the songs of Radiohead though?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah. IMHO.

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Here is a question and please be honest. How many of you have played an Elvis song via vinyl/cd/mp3/etc., in the last 6 months??



Me sir.
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Gerrardasnails:
however, there is not one song of his that I have even the slightest inclination of listening to over any number of songs at my disposal.


A Little Less Conversation is a fantastic song (IMHO...)

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If Presley looked like Worzel Gummidge [or me]Crying would he of been the icon he is today? I think I know the answer to that.


Course, it's down to taste, personally I only buy music based purely on the MUSIC, not image.

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If Presley looked like Worzel Gummidge [or me]Crying would he of been the icon he is today? I think I know the answer to that.


Course, it's down to taste, personally I only buy music based purely on the MUSIC, not image.



Couldn't agree more.

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Gerrardasnails:
  Can any of these lot touch the songs of Radiohead though?

Bwahahahahahahahahahahahah. IMHO.



Lol! For me they have produced album after album (excusing Kid A) of brilliance.
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plastic penguin:

If Presley looked like Worzel Gummidge [or me]Crying would he of been the icon he is today? I think I know the answer to that.


Course, it's down to taste, personally I only buy music based purely on the MUSIC, not image.



Furthermore, would he if he wasn't dead?


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plastic penguin:

If Presley looked like Worzel Gummidge [or me]Crying would he of been the icon he is today? I think I know the answer to that.


Course, it's down to taste, personally I only buy music based purely on the MUSIC, not image.



Couldn't agree more.

Me too - can't stand packaged, manipulated 'artists'. Goes back to my point about performers having passion and soul (rather than just a good stylist).

Elvis was dressing and dancing like he did from early teens (he got bullied at school for eschewing jeans and checked tops in true Southern US style for hot-pink silk jackets and drainpipe trousers, just like his Beale Street blues hereos), and retained that exuberance and flamboyance to the end of his career (with the infamous Bill Belew jumpsuits).

He also performed from an early age, and toured hard before getting his break - can't say that about a lot of today's straight-to-studio performers.

Yes, he was also possibly one of the best-looking people ever to walk this planet, but the people who kick-started his career by responding to radio airplay of That's Alright Mama etc had no idea of that: they just knew they were hearing something very, very different that they wanted to hear much more of.

Dismissing an incredibly talented performer that happens to be good-looking is cultural snobbery of the worst kind. 

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