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Well, they may have spoken to Martinez, but i'm not sure the fans want him, which is fine by me. Hopefully they'll go for AVB or Capello. If he does go i'm sure he'll have input into who we get as a replacement. I'll be happy with Martinez Mk II...

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BenLaw wrote:

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So, Wigan *and* Liverpool to be fighting off relegation next year?

Don't worry me Ben.

I guess you're just glad we haven't approached Norwich for Paul Lambert, though Villa might come calling. Mind you, I'd rather be at Norwich than Villa.

 

Well, relegation's obviously not realistic for you

It was under Hodgson

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Andy Madden wrote:

Well, they may have spoken to Martinez, but i'm not sure the fans want him, which is fine by me. Hopefully they'll go for AVB or Capello. If he does go i'm sure he'll have input into who we get as a replacement. I'll be happy with Martinez Mk II...

I like Martinez, and I especially liked him when he backed up Rafa after his "facts" rant against United, the only other manager to open his mouth. He could do well at Liverpool, but he's unproven at a bigger club, and this is probably why some Liverpool supporters have doubts about him. I would prefer him to Brendan Rogers definitely, though Capello is kind of my favourite at the moment, though maybe a little older than the owners are looking for.

If Martinez was to come to Liverpool, I would hope that Wigan could find a decent replacement, as I like the club, and I like Mr Whelan's loyalty to Martinez during the bad times, a quality rare in owners these days.

Let's hope it works out well for all concerned.

 

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Andy Madden wrote:

Well, they may have spoken to Martinez, but i'm not sure the fans want him, which is fine by me. Hopefully they'll go for AVB or Capello. If he does go i'm sure he'll have input into who we get as a replacement. I'll be happy with Martinez Mk II...

I like Martinez, and I especially liked him when he backed up Rafa after his "facts" rant against United, the only other manager to open his mouth. He could do well at Liverpool, but he's unproven at a bigger club, and this is probably why some Liverpool supporters have doubts about him. I would prefer him to Brendan Rogers definitely, though Capello is kind of my favourite at the moment, though maybe a little older than the owners are looking for.

If Martinez was to come to Liverpool, I would hope that Wigan could find a decent replacement, as I like the club, and I like Mr Whelan's loyalty to Martinez during the bad times, a quality rare in owners these days.

Let's hope it works out well for all concerned.

 

 

I agree. I like Martinez. I'm from Wigan, but too old to have supported them, but they are my 2nd team and I've watched them quite a few times when I lived in England (most memorable the win over Man City in the league cup when Keegan was at City's helm). In fact, I like Martinez as a personality far more than Dalglish(who is always far too coy for the press). 

he would be a worry, certainly, but young, entertaining football, bigger budget. I wouldn't mind us getting Victor Moses in the process either who has huge potential imo.

 

 

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

So, Wigan *and* Liverpool to be fighting off relegation next year?

Don't worry me Ben.

I guess you're just glad we haven't approached Norwich for Paul Lambert, though Villa might come calling. Mind you, I'd rather be at Norwich than Villa.

 

Well, relegation's obviously not realistic for you

It was under Hodgson

 

Don't really know Who was the worst tbh...

 

With a huge amount of backing from fans, owners and a chequebook, Kenny Dalglish has enjoyed a number of advantages that Roy Hodgson didn't have during his time at Liverpool.

Yet despite the millions spent and a less turbulent Anfield under new owners, Liverpool are only narrowly doing better in the league than they were under the former Switzerland manager.

The Reds have added plenty of new faces in the last year but the end result on the pitch is much the same.

Dalglish may have a cup to his name (with another possibly on the way) and secured European football back at Anfield for next season, but with the tools given to him he has arguably underachieved more than Hodgson. 

The fact that Liverpool are now only in a slightly better league position to the one Hodgson left the club in represents that.


(coppied for Daily Mail.                  puzzled

 

It would be  Great move if Liverpool got Martinez... he's a smashing manager and was well hampered most of the season with a mass of injuries to his squad.

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Dalglish's net spend was £23 million, Hodgson's was around £15 million. Hodgson won around 30% of his games in charge, Dalglish's record was quite a bit better.

Stats rarely tell the whole story, but neither do results, though it's results that ultimately matter. Liverpool have played well during the last season, they have hit the woodwork more than any other team, they have missed more penalties than any other team (I think), and they have spent more time in the oppositions half than any other team, but the results have not been good enough.

Luck has certainly been against Dalglish's team, but also, the lack of quality and flair has also contributed to the poor results. My only gripe with Dalglish was the way the way he shipped Aquilani, Pacheco and Cole out on loan, players that could have been useful in breaking down stubborn defences. 

Hodgson on the other hand, single-handedly tried to destroy everything Liverpool FC stands for, the football we played under him was beyond innept, so I can not remotely agree with your suggestion that Hodgson did better than Dalglish, because that just isn't true.

 

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I hear what you are saying Bernie, but that league table doesn't lie    banging head against wall

 

Nah, Roy was kinda pants in his time but he certainly wasn't helped and from what a few Pool mates tell me he wasn't helped at all by Kenny.

Anyway pal,

I hope for a pretty quick appointment and a good man put in charge, after all we deserve it.

I'm hoping for Martinez m,yself and desperatley HOPE that it is not Capello as I still see him as another cheque-book manager.

Martinez can spot a good un at a decent price and seeing as Kenny wasted soooo much money Martinez would be a more than welcome appointment...... to me anyway, reasoning being that he LOOKS like he Knows how to balance a team without spending too much dosh.

I said it earlier on, he had an awful LOT of injuries for large parts of that season there but with they same guys all fit... what a side.

Meant to add.... Charlie Adam IS a decent player and I still think that big Andy will come good      :)

 

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BIGBERNARDBRESSLAW wrote:

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On that basis, 12/1 is a decent enough price.

Looks like Martinez, so unfortunately for you, it's probably money lost.

I saw the odds lengthening yesterday and almost binned by betting slip (it was 33/1 in some places), but there's been a bit of press speculation this morning, and Capello is looking stronger.  Odds are ranging from 5/1 to 12/1.

 

 

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