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If this thing hit us it would most probably impact in an ocean and NASA reckon would be equivalant to an explosion of about 2.4 Megatons.

Not good but on the same scale as many surface H-bomb tests conducted in the 1950s and 60s by the USA, Russia and even Britain.

Not big enough to be an extinction event and puny by the standards of some of the biggest volcanic events that have occurred in human history.

Asteroid '2012 DA14' is only 45 meters across so it wouldn't be too devastating even if it was going to hit. There are some much bigger asteroids such as 'Aapophis' which is is approximately 325 metres across and is predicted to pass uncomfortably close to Earth in 2029 and could potentially (but unlikely) hit us in 2036 which would be devastating to the planet.

 

There are also many other asteroids and comets that we haven't spotted yet too. But the chance of a big one actually hitting Earth in the near future is very small and we can now rest easy safe in the knowledge that we could do something about it if it ever does happen. It's incredible when you consider that just a few years ago we'd have been completely defenceless to do anything about it.

 

 

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Of course, if it hit a major population centre then we are all b######d because it would probably be assumed to be a pre-emptive nuclear attack and automatically set off half the world's ICBMs to 'retaliate' against whatever their programmed targets currently are.

I doubt that would happen because there'd be plenty of warning if an asteroid was going to hit and everyone would be expecting it.

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steve_1979 wrote:

chebby wrote:

If this thing hit us it would most probably impact in an ocean and NASA reckon would be equivalant to an explosion of about 2.4 Megatons.

Not good but on the same scale as many surface H-bomb tests conducted in the 1950s and 60s by the USA, Russia and even Britain.

Not big enough to be an extinction event and puny by the standards of some of the biggest volcanic events that have occurred in human history.

Asteroid '2012 DA14' is only 45 meters across so it wouldn't be too devastating even if it was going to hit. There are some much bigger asteroids such as 'Aapophis' which is is approximately 325 metres across and is predicted to pass uncomfortably close to Earth in 2029 and could potentially (but unlikely) hit us in 2036 which would be devastating to the planet.

That's been ruled out, it's unlikely to get within 35 million miles of us now. It's 2068 that we need to look at now.

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chebby wrote:

If this thing hit us it would most probably impact in an ocean and NASA reckon would be equivalant to an explosion of about 2.4 Megatons.

Not good but on the same scale as many surface H-bomb tests conducted in the 1950s and 60s by the USA, Russia and even Britain.

Not big enough to be an extinction event and puny by the standards of some of the biggest volcanic events that have occurred in human history.

Asteroid '2012 DA14' is only 45 meters across so it wouldn't be too devastating even if it was going to hit. There are some much bigger asteroids such as 'Aapophis' which is is approximately 325 metres across and is predicted to pass uncomfortably close to Earth in 2029 and could potentially (but unlikely) hit us in 2036 which would be devastating to the planet.

That's been ruled out, it's unlikely to get within 35 million miles of us now. It's 2068 that we need to look at now.

Ahh yes my mistake. embarassed The book I was referring from is a couple of years old so is a bit out of date. I see that the calculated trajectory for 'Aapophis' was recently further refined a couple of weeks ago.

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'Aapophis'

That's twice now, I haven't seen anyone else spell it like that, where are you getting that from?

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steve_1979 wrote:
'Aapophis'

That's twice now, I haven't seen anyone else spell it like that, where are you getting that from?

Ooops. I spelled it out wrong the first time I typed it. Then the second time I just copy and pasted it without noticing that it was wrong.

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It's also worth noting that NASA did something similar with its 'Deep Impact' mission in 2005 which successfully collided a small impactor with a comet.

 

No wonder they went bust. Did the second one collide with a Jessop?

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FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

This seems to have hints of "Melancholia" about it.... Shock

There's little need for concern. Even if an asteroids trajectory was going to hit Earth we now have the technology to stop it.

party time!

We have designed a spaceship that would fire a heavy payload at an asteroid at with sufficient force to knock it off course.

Oh good. Is there any danger of us actually building it? Because we only found out how close this thing was going to get a few months ago and that isn't really enough time to build a brand new untested space craft and get it to a successful intercept of an asteroid in that space of time before it's too late to make any difference. Those sort of missions are planned years, if not decades in advance.

And it seems, it may not even work...

Err, not strictly true, when you read this specific article, nor if you read other pertaining articles. Nothing like drumming up fear, do you write for the Daily Mail by chance?

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woodster]</p> <p>[quote=The_Lhc wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:
FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

This seems to have hints of "Melancholia" about it.... Shock

There's little need for concern. Even if an asteroids trajectory was going to hit Earth we now have the technology to stop it.

party time!

We have designed a spaceship that would fire a heavy payload at an asteroid at with sufficient force to knock it off course.

Oh good. Is there any danger of us actually building it? Because we only found out how close this thing was going to get a few months ago and that isn't really enough time to build a brand new untested space craft and get it to a successful intercept of an asteroid in that space of time before it's too late to make any difference. Those sort of missions are planned years, if not decades in advance.

And it seems, it may not even work...

Err, not strictly true, when you read this specific article,
Ok, that specific article states that the number of binary asteroids MAY be a lot higher than we first thought and in the event of a pair being on a collision course that a collider such as Don quijote MAY not be effective in diverting both parts of the pair, so I don't see why there's anything wrong with saying it MAY not work.

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nor if you read other pertaining articles. Nothing like drumming up fear, do you write for the Daily Mail by chance?


It's not about drumming up fear, it's about pointing out that just because we're in the process of developing a solution it doesn't mean we're perfectly safe, which seems to be the impression that some people have.

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Well we've all survived, well I have anyway, plenty of soiled underwear in Russia though.

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The_Lhc]</p> <p>[quote=woodster wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:
FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

This seems to have hints of "Melancholia" about it.... Shock

There's little need for concern. Even if an asteroids trajectory was going to hit Earth we now have the technology to stop it.

party time!

We have designed a spaceship that would fire a heavy payload at an asteroid at with sufficient force to knock it off course.

Oh good. Is there any danger of us actually building it? Because we only found out how close this thing was going to get a few months ago and that isn't really enough time to build a brand new untested space craft and get it to a successful intercept of an asteroid in that space of time before it's too late to make any difference. Those sort of missions are planned years, if not decades in advance.

And it seems, it may not even work...

Err, not strictly true, when you read this specific article, Ok, that specific article states that the number of binary asteroids MAY be a lot higher than we first thought and in the event of a pair being on a collision course that a collider such as Don quijote MAY not be effective in diverting both parts of the pair, so I don't see why there's anything wrong with saying it MAY not work.

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nor if you read other pertaining articles. Nothing like drumming up fear, do you write for the Daily Mail by chance?

It's not about drumming up fear, it's about pointing out that just because we're in the process of developing a solution it doesn't mean we're perfectly safe, which seems to be the impression that some people have.

 

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Well we've all survived, well I have anyway, plenty of soiled underwear in Russia though.

The meteor over Russia on Friday morning was totally unrelated to Asteroid '2012 DA14' which passed us by later on Friday during the evening.

 

There's some great videos of the meteor on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_RknL9G-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI

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yeah i also missed it

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Big Chris wrote:

My postcode starts DA13..... Does this mean it'll be passing closest to near where I live? Smile

I'd be worried if I were you Shock

Me? I'm in M28 so not the slightest bit concerned excellent!

 

Some would say an asteroid strike on Salford could only improve the place....Smile

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Lost Angeles wrote:

Well we've all survived, well I have anyway, plenty of soiled underwear in Russia though.

The meteor over Russia on Friday morning was totally unrelated to Asteroid '2012 DA14' which passed us by later on Friday during the evening.

 

There's some great videos of the meteor on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl_RknL9G-Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI

 

Definitely better than fireworks.  Smile

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woodster wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

The_Lhc wrote:

steve_1979 wrote:
FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

This seems to have hints of "Melancholia" about it.... Shock

There's little need for concern. Even if an asteroids trajectory was going to hit Earth we now have the technology to stop it.

party time!

We have designed a spaceship that would fire a heavy payload at an asteroid at with sufficient force to knock it off course.

Oh good. Is there any danger of us actually building it? Because we only found out how close this thing was going to get a few months ago and that isn't really enough time to build a brand new untested space craft and get it to a successful intercept of an asteroid in that space of time before it's too late to make any difference. Those sort of missions are planned years, if not decades in advance.

And it seems, it may not even work...

Err, not strictly true, when you read this specific article, nor if you read other pertaining articles. Nothing like drumming up fear, do you write for the Daily Mail by chance?

I'm out of the UK - did the Daily Mail happen to blame the whole thing on Polish immigrants, workshy single mothers or try to link it to the death of Princess DI by any chance?