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The luiz report was that he wouldn't have unlimited funds, not because they aren't there but because of the uefa rules on balancing the books. Apparently he sees luiz as the most expensive dispensable player and wants £32m for him. I'd like to see lukaku get a long run in the team, he has the potential to be a really top player. 

 

Oh yeah, I forgot about that.  It should be interesting to see how that will work.  My understanding is that it comes down to the clubs turnover for how much they have to spend, but I noticed Man City securing megabucks deals, so it would not affect them much, or that is my understanding on the subject.

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Exactly. The man city situation is interesting because other clubs have complained that those sponsorship deals are a sham as the companies involved are owned by / associated with the owners of the club. 

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Exactly. The man city situation is interesting because other clubs have complained that those sponsorship deals are a sham as the companies involved are owned by / associated with the owners of the club. 

It's only because MCFC are the new kids on the block and there is understandably some jealousy at the ability to attract that level of funding.Man Uniteds deal with Chevrolet is also quite tasty but not as newsworthy as a club trying to" cheat the rules".Sadly,I have read the fair play rules for financial governance of clubs and there is as much "leeway" as everyday companies have, to manipulate the  results.(creative accounting)

MCFC and MUFC as well as others employ expensive finance directors to "maximise" their confomity to the rules.It's no different to Tescos shifting their property base to Zug in Switzerland and realising their sale and leaseback "opportunities" to minimise tax liability.

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I rather assumed city had read the fine print with their sponsorship and nothing I had read made me think that the companies were sufficiently close to make the complaints successful, but useful to hear it from someone who's read the rules. I can't recall, are you a city fan RGD?

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Oh yes- I started on the terraces in early 63.

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I remember you saying now  Smile Well I got to Maine road once before it disappeared  Wink What are your views on Mancini / pellegrini?

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Mancini certainly took them to another level but there was distinctly an air of discontent about his management style after 2 years.Absolutist springs to mind, as well as traditional,and if so a misguided long term choice by the owners and their "holistic approach". It usually takes a couple of years for the Tartuffe's mask to  fall.However he will go down in City folklore.

Pellegrini is possibly the bottled water equivalent of prawn sarnies but my gut feeling says he will be a surprise package.Just what the surprise is ,is well, a surprise. excellent!

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Sorry for the delay RGD, I missed your reply. That sounds like the view of most city supporters I know. He will go down in lore for winning the championship but wouldn't strongly disagree he may not be the man to take them forward. Most of the upset I could discern was over the timing of the story, which may have impacted on the cup final performance. 

 

I think you're fairly insulated from a really bad surprise. I can't see you finishing below 3rd next season whatever happens. You also seem to be moving in the right direction with transfers, Dzeko needs to go and Navas should be a superb signing. Pellegrini could end up being a very nice surprise; I guess it depends on whether he can win the respect of the players early and get them playing purposefully as a team. With consistency it is eminently possible to outperform utd next season. 

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Given the managerial changes with the top three clubs this could be one of the most exciting seasons. Add into the equation that Arsenal and Tottenham must spend to give themselves a shout at least top four finish, and it's starting to look tasty.

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Do you think arsenal will spend? I can't see it personally. Top three will be the same but much more excitement next season as to the order. 

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Do you think arsenal will spend? I can't see it personally. Top three will be the same but much more excitement next season as to the order. 

If they want to give them selves a chance at the title and a trophy they'll need a recognised striker, like Chelsea need, who can score 20 + goals in the league and someone in central defence and perhaps a settled goalkeeper.

Chelsea will need a striker and a holding midfielder. Yet they have so many fabulous player out on loan and I'd like to see a few of those given the opportunity. They have a solid spine it's just a case of tweaking the weaker areas.

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Lukaku and Essen (under Mourinho) seems to answer your wish list. Chuck in fellaini and some tinkering of the defensive line and you've got a strong squad. 

 

As for arsenal, saying they need players and them actually buying them are two very different things. They've needed a centre back and goalkeeper for many years and didn't replace RVP last year. We'll see, it would certainly make it more interesting if they did spend. 

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Pretty sure Arsenal have finished paying for their stadium, which seemed to cap their spending, so who knows.

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AFAIK that's right, but I think wenger's got into the habit of being frugal and prides himself on qualifying for the CL without spending much money. It's a shame, as overmars, vieira, pires and Henry show he has an eye for spending well but not extravagantly. 

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Not wishing to stir it or anything, but if Benitez had spent all the money Mourinho has, and lost 2 games in a row, and kept Mata on the bench, he'd have been called negative, and told to f**k off. So what's so special about about this guy then?

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