A Swiss lesson in defending
Well done Switzerland[:D] They were organised, disciplined and held formation exceptionally well. Spain ooze attacking talent all over the field and the Swiss have made them look very ordinary. Mr Capello should sit the England squad down and make them watch this match from start to finish to see how it is done.
I think the Spain game needed about a million more vuvuzelas to drown out the dull commentary from Mick McCarthy
There is a section of the public who will complain. Let's call them for arguments sake the 'Daily Mail' crowd. But out of millions of people watching in this country 500+ complaining is pretty insignificant don't you think.
It is the sound of African football after all. Like it or not. It was there for the Confederation cup last year, so it's not a world cup phenomenon.
And yes as Davey said, i'd rather hear the vuv's than Mick McCarthy's 'drone' which has an annoyance factor far far higher. Plus it's a shame Mick doesn't take onboard more of the advice he dishes out during the matches - if he did Wolves would not be so rubbish 
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* Just my opinion of course, other opinions are available mainly from Wolves fans.
Daveee:Well done Switzerland
They were organised, disciplined and held formation exceptionally well. Spain ooze attacking talent all over the field and the Swiss have made them look very ordinary. Mr Capello should sit the England squad down and make them watch this match from start to finish to see how it is done.
Your joking right!
They defended with nine men and hoped to get a goal on the break, which they did unfortunately.
How enjoyable.
Dazmb:The vuvuzelas were very muted I thought.
That because they were bored out of their minds watching the Swiss defend.
It was by no means the most boring game of the world cup to date - that I have seen anyway. I can think of others far duller. Perhaps the vuv's were drowned out in the stadium by Mick 'The Foghorn' McCarthy's witty banter.
Let's be fair, Switzerland did have some good chances in the 2nd half. Other than their goal the 2nd best chance was their off-post sidefoot effor in the box. Spains best effort was Xabi's long-range effort off the crossbar. So I don't think Spain can claim they were robbed.
Technically clearly a class above the Swiss. And on their day they would turn them over easily. But this wasn't their day Shooter.
Dazmb:Spains best effort was Xabi's long-range effort off the crossbar.
Hmm i thought they had 10 shots on goal with a total of 21 goal attempts.
Lets hope tonights game will be better but i doubt it.
Regarding the vuvuzela's dulcet tones. I believe the tone to be a B Minor, and the BBC can remove it from the broadcast but it would of cost the tax payer an extraordinary amount to do so. The idea was scraped.
shooter69:Regarding the vuvuzela's dulcet tones. I believe the tone to be a B Minor, and the BBC can remove it from the broadcast but it would of cost the tax payer an extraordinary amount to do so. The idea was scraped.
No it has been done Shooter. See the quote in my first post. The broadcasters take their feeds from the same company, and they have made some changes already. After listening to this afternoons match any changes done at local level by the BBC now should focus on putting some top-end/sparkle back in the audio. It sounded very flat and lifeless.
shooter69:Your joking right! They defended with nine men and hoped to get a goal on the break, which they did unfortunately. How enjoyable.
Daveee:Well done Switzerland
To be fair you probably need to defend with 9 men to stop the Spanish scoring. Credit where it's due, Switzerland ranked 24th have got one over the 2nd ranked team in the world. Okay it wasn't the most entertaining of games but it was a thoroughly professional performance. If Switzerland had come out all guns blazing and tried to attack and outplay Spain in the conventional manner they would have probably got hammered. As it stands they have produced the performance of the tournament so far and given themselves every opportunity to progress to the knockout phase. Good on them.
Daveee:To be fair you probably need to defend with 9 men to stop the Spanish scoring.
This does seem to be a reoccurring theme where the so called underdogs set formation to defence. It takes the shine off some the games and everyone looses out. I'm going to be a bit radicle here and say they should half the amount of teams who qualify so when the whistle goes every team comes out guns 'a' blazing. It could be a bit harsh but a lot of teams are there 'for the ride' yes i know they qualified but that system needs to be addressed also, this would remove all the chaff and with a new tournament structure could be much better.
Also i want to hear crowds cheering not vuvu blimin' zela's!
shooter69:system needs to be addressed also, this would remove all the chaff and with a new tournament structure could be much better.
Like in the old days yes? Maybe, but I believe there is one small obstacle in the way of there ever being less teams participating again.
It's this: ££££££££££££££££££$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$????????????????¾¾¾¾¾¾¾¾¾¾¾¾ you get the idea.....
I don't understand this preoccupation with Vuvuzelas, they are part and parcel of the game in SA. Get over it.
As for the game, chuffed to bits that the Swiss won, although 99 times out of 100 Spain would tonk them, it was just their day today.
Because the statistics say that...
shooter69:I'm going to be a bit radicle here and say they should half the amount of teams who qualify so when the whistle goes every team comes out guns 'a' blazing.
How many more World Cup finals would that have ruled England out of in the last 40 years?
We managed to disqualify ourselves from the 1974, 1978 and 1994 finals and we got in automatically in 1970 by virtue of being the cup holder and 1966 by being the host.
Under your scheme would England would be a "chaff" team?
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Indeed. Switzerland deserved to win IMO. They had the better near-goal chances in the 2nd half. But Spain once in their stride will be there or thereabouts.
I thought the BBC had fiddled around with the audio stream. The vuvuzelas were very muted I thought. It sounded like one of thoese 'canned' crowd noise backgrounds that broadcasters pipe in when they don't have a live audio feed. Very odd. But I've just seen this:
"Host Broadcast Services, the company that provides the broadcast feed for the World Cup, said Tuesday it has doubled its audio filters to reduce the constant blaring buzz of vuvuzelas. TV viewers around the globe have complained that the swarm-of-bees sound from the plastic horns is stinging their ears.
"Despite HBS' core philosophy, which is to provide `realistic' host broadcast coverage reflecting the ambiance in the stadiums, additional audio filtering has been implemented"
"The filters also will minimize other crowd noise in the stadiums, such as chants and cheers. HBS said it has increased the level in the ball mics to provide some balance".
Atmosphere now sounds flat, dull and odd. Bring back the vuvuzelas!