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Wow. My Synology DiskStation 212J arrived yesterday along with a 2TB DW 'Red' drive. Installing the hard drive was worryingly easy, software set up worked a dream and this thing is really comprehensive. You can instantly see why it's way more expensive than the WD MyBookLive.

I'm amazed to see I can even run a web server on it should I wish - with installers for PHPMyAdmin and even Drupal - amazing.

It's complex, but actually quite logical. Unlike the WD approach, everything is locked down by default, you need to enable access, services etc as needed. I can see why this would annoy some people, but I play with Linux a lot at work so it's not problem.

There's still loads of configuring I need to do. So far I've copied my iTunes library and have linked it via NFS to my Apple TV running XBMC. A NAS is a NAS? Digital is digital? But I'm sure the sound is a bit more open...

As with using the WD, data transfer seem a bit slow. A bit of research and checking my network has revealed the odd Cat5 cable among gigabit switches so I need to upgrade those to Cat5e.

 

Lots of fun and I'm sure learning all its features will keep me busy.

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Ooo, exciting   Cool

I'm contemplating a Synology 212J, I'm hoping it's possible to control it from my laptop/iTunes via Airplay, and then the 212J will play music via my rDAC  puzzled

Clearly, though, much further research required on my part...  doh!

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Is that not just a case of making the iTunes folder on the NAS your default iTunes library on your laptop then sending that via Airplay? If so, should be easy.

The rDAC isn't Airplay enabled though is it? (Mine isn't)

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RE: Synology has arrived...

roger06 wrote:

So far I've copied my iTunes library and have linked it via NFS to my Apple TV running XBMC.

Is XBMC showing the contents of your library correctly?  I had a devil of a time with mine showing upto 10 duplicates of tracks, or showing them correctly but then saying it couldn't find them when clicking play.  Think I set it to access the nas via UPnP.

I gave up on the XBMC library function and have started using the Synology Audio Station app, it's connected to my dac via the ATV but apparently you can connect the nas directly to a dac if your dac has a usb input.

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Hi Craig

I've never had any problems on the music side, well apart from it being quite poor at getting artists' images. I have noticed some duplicates in the movies bit but I so that so rarely it's not an issue.

Have you 'cleaned' your library and re-scanned?

Interesting about the Synology - there's loads it can do! However, it's in another room so not practical to connect via USB, though I may move it to see what it's like.

 

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Yes, cleaned and re-scanned, as well as deleted the library file and re-installing XBMC.  Numerous times!  banging head against wall

I was going to try the usb connection, but I noticed that Audio Station was 'seeing' my ATV as a streaming option so just decided to use that - with remote control via a free phone app or web interface.  I'm very impressed with the nas though, as you say it can do loads of stuff!  My next use for it will be for sharing photos and videos with family via the Photo Station app.

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You now need a 2nd WD Red hard drive, roger06!  Wink

Use Synology hybrid RAID.

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RE: Synology has arrived...

Hi 

 

the first thing i notice when i connected my DS213 was an improvement of the sound quality of the SBT using the NAS to run the SBServer, compered to my laptop.

I've mine connected via QED LAN cable to my WIFI tower and the wifi tower connected through another LAN cable to my SBT.

I love the sound quality of this delivery, and the Rega DAC play an important roll in this proccess.

 

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bigboss wrote:

You now need a 2nd WD Red hard drive, roger06!  Wink

Use Synology hybrid RAID.

 

Indeed! But I think it can wait until Santa brings it excellent! At the moment all my music and photos are on my MacBook Pro as well and this is backed up by Time Machine on a USB hard drive thus the Synology is not a single point of failure. 

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Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

Hi 

 

the first thing i notice when i connected my DS213 was an improvement of the sound quality of the SBT using the NAS to run the SBServer, compered to my laptop.

I've mine connected via QED LAN cable to my WIFI tower and the wifi tower connected through another LAN cable to my SBT.

I love the sound quality of this delivery, and the Rega DAC play an important roll in this proccess.

 

Best REGArds

 

Sorry - what's an 'SBT' ?

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roger06 wrote:

Sorry - what's an 'SBT' ?

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bigboss wrote:

roger06 wrote:

Sorry - what's an 'SBT' ?

Squeezebox Touch

 

Thats right! Wink

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roger06 wrote:

Is that not just a case of making the iTunes folder on the NAS your default iTunes library on your laptop then sending that via Airplay? If so, should be easy.

The rDAC isn't Airplay enabled though is it? (Mine isn't)

Oh, shizzle. I was hoping that my MBP/iTunes will connect via AirPlay to DS212j -> USB -> rDAC. No?? Sad  

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Does this mean you want to transfer sound from DS212j via its own USB to rDAC.   I wonder if Synology's own music app would do this for you - http://www.synology.com/dsm/home_home_applications_audio_station.php?lang=us - it's controllable from mac or iDevice.  

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Chisy1 wrote:

Does this mean you want to transfer sound from DS212j via its own USB to rDAC.   I wonder if Synology's own music app would do this for you - http://www.synology.com/dsm/home_home_applications_audio_station.php?lang=us - it's controllable from mac or iDevice.  

At the risk of appearing to be thick - if I were to use Synology's music app, would I have to jettison iTunes? If so, how would I then load music onto an iPod and/or iPhone? 

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As a Synology owner and Itunes, LMT (logitech media server formerly known as sqeezebox server) user who bought into this to obtain a quiet, low power, available streaming solution I can maybe answer some questions: 

Synology's music aserver simply runs over whatever music library (folder/directory structure) you point it at so it doesn't prevent you using itunes. However, it is 'clunky' and doesn't currently provide any nice solution for browsing large media libraries - to the extent that for me it is no solution. It will however stream to an airplay device, it will do this via a wifi network provided the NAS is connected to it (NAS to wifi router by ethernet). There are also synology products with wifi connectivity included, at a cost.

I use LMT which is conveniently bundled with the NAS as my music server, then use the ipeng app to stream it to an apple airport express which provides a digital input to my DAC. The airport express could be any apple airplay device in this scenario. There is a downside that the battery life on my itouch is challenged by this so it stays on charge for serious listening sessions. In other rooms I use some logitech devices which also work well and fit with the solution, which is handy as that was the whole point of centralizing my media library. 

It would've been less painless if the NAS hosted an itunes client but tbh I've got used to LMT with control via ipeng - to the extent that I now only use itunes to sync devices and manage podcasts. 

Sorry, I don't know if an audio out is offered from the NAS's USB interfaces, I believe that maybe only for attached storage and printers.

Hope that made some sense, on the sofa with flu today..

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