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All my CDs are ripped to my NAS in Apple lossless. This works fine for streaming to my Apple TV. However, it seems no other devices such as Sony BD player, Samsung phone or Nexus tablet will play them.

Do i need to convert or re-rip them? It seems Apple lossless is the only format that preserves the track / artist / album info.

 

Advice appreciated...

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

roger06 wrote:
Do i need to convert or re-rip them? It seems Apple lossless is the only format that preserves the track / artist / album info.

FLAC will do the same, but then your ATV will turn its nose up at your tracks and won't play them. One solution might be to get a media server package on the NAS able to transcode on the fly, so you point your non-Apple devices at that one, and they see a format they can handle.

I believe the Synology can be set up to transcode to PCM on the fly, which would be a solution, but I'm not entirely sure about the set-up for this. Will do some reading and come back to you – unless a Synology owner would like to chime in?

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

Sorry, should have mentioned it's a jailbroken ATV running XBMC which I believe will play FLAC...

 

 

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Ah, but iTunes won't convert to FLAC. Grrrr...

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

I think XBMC supports ALAC (apples lossless) so not a problem Smile

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I think XBMC supports ALAC (apples lossless) so not a problem Smile

 

Yes, that's not the problem though. None of my other devices seem to want to play it...

 

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

Ah, the joys of digital music banging head against wall

My CD player plays CDs and my turntable plays vinyl good job

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

There are android music players that claim to support apple lossless.  Here is one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.avs234&hl=en  Its called andLess. 

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DandyCobalt wrote:

Ah, the joys of digital music banging head against wall

My CD player plays CDs and my turntable plays vinyl good job

Hmm... after a morning of router/wi-fi grief and endless AirPort re-sets - hear what your saying  banging head against wall

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Ah, the joys of digital music banging head against wall

My CD player plays CDs and my turntable plays vinyl good job

 

Where's the fun in that? party time!

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

roger06 wrote:

cheeseboy wrote:

I think XBMC supports ALAC (apples lossless) so not a problem Smile

 

Yes, that's not the problem though. None of my other devices seem to want to play it...

 

 

excellent! sorry, ignore me Smile

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6th.replicant wrote:

DandyCobalt wrote:

Ah, the joys of digital music banging head against wall

My CD player plays CDs and my turntable plays vinyl good job

Hmm... after a morning of router/wi-fi grief and endless AirPort re-sets - hear what your saying  banging head against wall

With my turntable plugged into my Sonos, I can play my vinyl in any room in the house, without ripping (vinyl heaven!) Can't remember the last time I had to reset my router or sonos (probably just put a jinx on the whole thing! doh! )

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

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Is Apple lossless a mistake?

only if the need to stream via incompatible hardware is an important consideration. Which is a bit of a lame answer, but it's the determining factor. I chose Apple Lossless because I knew I'd only ever want to stream via Apple hardware (that and the fact FLAC isn't natively supported on Apple devices). Tools like XLD and Max will bulk-convert for use with incompatible hardware.

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

If you're likely to buy an amp or blu-ray that supports FLAC & DLNA then I would suggest FLAC as the way to go.

Then theres no need for extra kit like ATVs and the like. 

 

As for your Android phone/tablet not playing ALAC - get Poweramp from the Google store.

 

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

Hi Roger,

Andrew is right, what you need is a media server which will transcode the ALAC files on the fly into something that your other devices are compatible with. I have the same NAS as you and I believe that the standard Synology media server can do this and transcode to PCM - you can install that from the package centre within the DSM interface. 

Alternatively I use Serviio (for video, but same principles apply) which has been packaged for the DS212j, and with that you can specify a renderer profile for each device so that it tailors its transcoding behaviour to exactly what that device can handle. There are instructions for how to install serviio on the web and the serviio forum is very good.

Back to your OP, because 'lossless' is just that, if you wanted to change formats then you could convert the files to another lossless or uncompressed format with no detrimental effect. Tools like Max for the Mac will do that, or  even iTunes as long as you stick with formats it likes. No need for re-ripping!

hope that helps!

Dan

 

Edit - just seen your other thread about Twonky. That should enable you to do a similar thing, although the CPU overhead doesn't sound good, so I'd recommend giving the standard Synology media server a go, or Serviio.

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RE: Is Apple lossless a mistake?

roger06 wrote:
DandyCobalt wrote:

Ah, the joys of digital music banging head against wall

My CD player plays CDs and my turntable plays vinyl good job

Where's the fun in that? party time!

Listening Smile

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