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Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - sacd or 96/24 download ?

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as topic ... i just wondering which version will sound better ? 

 

would be for headphone stereo use only

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AFAIK, 96/24s and SACDs are, in effect, the same resolution and many of the 'new' 88-96/24 DLs are sourced from existing SACD master tapes, as HDtracks.com clarified recently when it released the hi-res versions of the Rolling Stones back catalogue.

FWIW, I prefer SACDs purely because my CDP does a better job of playing digital music compared to my computer/iTunes/DAC setup.

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Don't forget the old Mobile Fidelity Ultradisc, which sounds very nice. Not heard the SACD so can't compare.

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6th.replicant wrote:

AFAIK, 96/24s and SACDs are, in effect, the same resolution and many of the 'new' 88-96/24 DLs are sourced from existing SACD master tapes, as HDtracks.com clarified recently when it released the hi-res versions of the Rolling Stones back catalogue.

FWIW, I prefer SACDs purely because my CDP does a better job of playing digital music compared to my computer/iTunes/DAC setup.

That is also my understanding.

SACD/DVD Audio.. really come into their own in 5.1 (fantastic - shame its dying.)

I hope Blu-ray music takes hold....but it too will probably remain niche. Sad

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6th.replicant wrote:

AFAIK, 96/24s and SACDs are, in effect, the same resolution and many of the 'new' 88-96/24 DLs are sourced from existing SACD master tapes, as HDtracks.com clarified recently when it released the hi-res versions of the Rolling Stones back catalogue.

FWIW, I prefer SACDs purely because my CDP does a better job of playing digital music compared to my computer/iTunes/DAC setup.

That is also my understanding. SACD/DVD Audio.. really come into their own in 5.1 (fantastic - shame its dying.) I hope Blu-ray music takes hold....but it too will probably remain niche. Sad Cno

Prefer SACDs via 2-channel, but probably 'cos my 5.1 setup isn't much cop.

My dream is for next-gen CDPs to be CD/SACD/Blu-ray compatible, and all future 'hard copy' music releases to be on a hybrid Blu-ray disc with a 16/44.1-Red Book layer and a 24/192-Blu-ray layer.

Guess I'll have to keep on dreaming... Frown 

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i should add .. when i got into sacd abit originally i had a VERY good 5.1 system ......times change ... and sacd playback would be through sony s370  br player ...  

 

nearly all my listening these days is through headphones  ... senn hd600 , graham slee solo , mf v-dac through pc ... if i went sacd route obvoiusly the path is slightly different....

 

so.... teh 96/24 download is ok i take it ?  it is from hdtracks 

 

also i have a slight concern on how long i can expect teh quality of my downloads to last  ? and if i can re-download at no cost to me in the future ?  anyone know ?

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TALON1973 wrote:

i should add .. when i got into sacd abit originally i had a VERY good 5.1 system ......times change ... and sacd playback would be through sony s370  br player ...  

 

nearly all my listening these days is through headphones  ... senn hd600 , graham slee solo , mf v-dac through pc ... if i went sacd route obvoiusly the path is slightly different....

 

so.... teh 96/24 download is ok i take it ?  it is from hdtracks 

 

also i have a slight concern on how long i can expect teh quality of my downloads to last  ? and if i can re-download at no cost to me in the future ?  anyone know ?

If you end up getting it, can you report back.....it's one I have had my eye on.

Thx

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lol i couldnt resist .... downloading now Smile

 

 

just listening to :-

Audiophile 96kHz/24bit

Artist: Carla Lother
Title: 100 Lovers

 

which i just downloaded ..... damn it sounds good through headphones

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TALON1973 wrote:

i should add .. when i got into sacd abit originally i had a VERY good 5.1 system ......times change ... and sacd playback would be through sony s370  br player ...  

 

nearly all my listening these days is through headphones  ... senn hd600 , graham slee solo , mf v-dac through pc ... if i went sacd route obvoiusly the path is slightly different....

 

so.... teh 96/24 download is ok i take it ?  it is from hdtracks 

 

6th .. have you got a link to that info please ?

No disrespect to your Sony S370, but if I had your V-DAC/PC setup I'd opt for HDtracks's 96/24... Smile

Re the Stones's hi-res downloads, HDtracks blurb said:

"...For this HD Tracks release, the Bob Ludwig mastered DSD files [aka SACD master] were converted to both 176.4kHz and 88.2kHz high resolution PCM with Weiss Saracon conversion software."

Full info here:

https://www.hdtracks.com/index.php?file=stones (scroll down to heading: "The Remastering of the Rolling Stones")   

 

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never even heard of her .. but played teh demo trakcs ... and thought i'll try it ... i like a good guitar sesion

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thanks 6th in regards that ... yeh  tbh i thought the pc download would cream the sony for hd sound tbh ...are all the tracks the do direct rips from sacd / hd audio sources then ?

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also i have a slight concern on how long i can expect teh quality of my downloads to last  ? and if i can re-download at no cost to me in the future ?  anyone know ?

Sorry, are you saying you're expecting the quality of a digital file to degrade over time? Nothing could be further from the truth.

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also i have a slight concern on how long i can expect teh quality of my downloads to last  ? and if i can re-download at no cost to me in the future ?  anyone know ?
Sorry, are you saying you're expecting the quality of a digital file to degrade over time? Nothing could be further from the truth.

 

thats exactly what i'm refering to ..... i know ive read that mp3s have de-graded over time and its a file at the end of the day on a pc ..its bound to Sad

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Wherever you read that was wrong, a digital file will NOT degrade, it's impossible. A physical cd can but that's not the same thing at all. Ignore whatever you might have heard the idea is nonsense.

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If you end up getting it, can you report back.....it's one I have had my eye on. Thx Cno[/quote]

 

just did a quick back to back / stop strat at after 20 seconds comparrision of candle in teh wind

 

version of cd i'm using on my pc is "greatest hits - one night only "  from 2002.   ive made sure both have the same sound level to max , so that im usign the headphone amp to control volume .. after setting in at a level playing field ive got to say the 96/24 version is a nice breath of fresh air ... more bounce to it and everything seems to come alive , and its louder / clearer.. glad i bought it now

 

edit  .. ive also listened to "saterday nights alright for fighting"  .. again this is for more alive and detailed / loder than the cd version.....  i did my first test usign different media players .... "candle cd" was wmc .. "candle 96/24" was mediamonkey.

 

for "saturday" i used wmc for both files......and again the 96/24 version just jumps out at you ... for more drive and attack .. and i'll say again ....louder/clearer .......  the best way to describe it would be saying the artist has gone back 20 years later and played exactly the same song /same cords/same style , but using better recording eqipment ..... just awesome is all i can say

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Talon

Appreciate you taking the time.....Thx

Looks like one I'll just have to get.

Cheers

Cno

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