Can tick off one of my 2013 resolutions, just banked the wireless buttkicker (off a well known auction site -£226 for a 3month old kit). Missed out on a lfe on Saturday. Will post a review once I receive and set up - looking forward to the weekend
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the wireless sucks - bet it'll be back on ebay and you'l be after the wired kit before 6 months :)
Really? Does the wireless drop out frequently? Amazon reviews are quite good.
Obviously, a wired kit will be more stable, but some setups do not permit that.
i assume you are speaking from experience? Can you provide more details?
I wanted the lfe, once I missed out on that thought I'd take a punt on the wireless version that was going at the same time. Given the price I banked it's low risk and I can see if I like the buttkicker experience. The expansion options seem limited for the wireless so i'm viewing it more as an intro to upgrade to lfe if i think it enhances the home theatre experience etc. I read reviews on other websites which seemed quite favourable. But any feedback appreciated .
I was watching both those auctions too
The wireless is a good kit, some interference problems may be experienced but they are easily overcome by repositioning wireless equipment. That certainly seems to be the overall opinion from what I have read.
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Watching or bidding??
When are you going to get one? I've gone for it - think you should to
i think it gets delivered today, but I'm out till the weekend, once I get it set up will confirm the wireless sensitivity.
Yeah please do I was watching the LFE kit but then I forgot to bid on it
But not to worry, soon I will pick one up and join you!
Guys looks like I have a problem appreciate some advice.
I can't get the kit to work. I've been in touch with the seller who assures me that it was fully working before he shipped it.
I requested a copy of his order from the shaker centre, it was bought from them on 15th April 2013 ie only a month old.
i did enquire at the time why he was selling and he stated it wasn't for him?
So on a +ve it's virtually brand new.
Overview of issue and what I have tried:
I've set my av amp to test tone, just set to sub woofer so I know I'm getting a test tone.
Confirmed since I'm getting the test tone from the sub.
But I don't get anything through to the buttkicker.
Have re-synced the transmitter and receivers, but nothing comes through? Decided to eliminate the wireless, so unplugged the wireless usb from the bk amp and just hard wire direct from the sub woofer output on my av amp to the bk amp, again nothing?? To prove there was a signal I plugged the cable back into my sub and I got the test tone through the sub.
I tried turning the db's up on the av amp, and the intensity setting on the bk amp and it didn't make any difference? Not even a flicker
I've checked the wiring from the bk amp to the buttkicker ie made sure not incorrectly wired.
Seeing as I got no signal wirelessly nor direct wire to bk amp leads me to think might be a problem with the input stage on the bk amp???According to the seller he only used it hard wired to the av, not wirelessly. This has a few alarm bells for me since:A, why buy a wireless kit only to hard wire? (Maybe the wireless is poor?, but why not state this? I mean there are other factors that affect wireless not just the kit??)B, ironically when I originally received the system the mains adaptor for the wireless transmitter was missing since seller forgot to pack it, stating " missed it since it was still plugged in?. I did point this out as a contradiction to his original statement on configuration, I mean why have it plugged in if you are not using it? I didn't get a reply on this.I realise this might be a niche bit of kit- not aware of many owners on the forum, but can anyone offer advice on if they had issues setting it up?next steps?1, feedback from forums if I'm doing something wrong2, shaker centre seem to operate an email only contact service, no phone numbers. I've emailed them all the details last night (late) inc the sales receipt. My assumption is that the warranty gets transferred with the kit if there is a fault?I believe the warranty is rtb, so I'll get hit with shipping fee's - so I'll not be happy with that, but I've still paid significantly less than list for virtually new.3, eBay? This it's only my 2nd purchase off eBay, what are the rules for receiving items that do not work. Seller has already stated, does not accept returns, was working when he shipped etc. where would I stand if I wanted my money back if it is a genuine fault?hopefully it is just a set up issue and I'm doing something wrong, but any feedback truly appreciatedkrlxd55
Even if the seller says he won't accept returns, the item does not work as described. So he will have to accept returns and refund you the money. You can open a case with eBay & generally, this goes in favour of the buyer. Make sure all correspondence with the seller is via eBay only (& not privately via email) so they ave a record that you complained about the problem as soon as you received the item.
Check the manufacturer's website:
The ButtKicker Power Amplifier (BKA1000) needs to have a signal source, we recommend using your AV Receiver's "Subwoofer Output" (which will include the .1 or LFE channel, and possibly the low frequencies of all the other channels). Most Subwoofer Outputs are a standard RCA connection. In this case simply run an RCA cable from the output to the Line Level Input on the BKA1000-4A. If a subwoofer is currently connected to the Subwoofer Output an RCA "Y" splitter can be used to run the one signal to both the subwoofer and the BKA1000.
If you are using the BK-Link follow the above instructions but run an RCA cable to the back of the BK-Link "Send" unit. The BK-Link "Receive" unit will connect via RCA to the BKA1000-4A's Line Level Input.
If your A/V receiver uses speaker wire connections for the subwoofers and/or speakers you can use the Speaker Level Interface Adapter to connect to the receiver. The Speaker Level Interface Adapter connects to the subwoofer output at one end with speaker wire and leads into an RCA "male" jack at the opposite end. From this point refer to the above instructions regarding connection to the BKA1000-4A.
If your A/V receiver does not have a subwoofer output (because of a proprietary cable being used for the subwoofer) you can still connect the center channel speaker or other speakers. In this case ensure that low frequency sound is being sent through the selected channel so that the ButtKicker transducer receives signal. If a speaker channel is unavailable some A/V receivers may have a line level output to connect to. If no such connections are present (this occasionally occurs on low-end "home theater in a box" type systems) there is unfortunately no way to connect to the A/V receiver. In this case please contact the manufacturer for suggestions on connecting external audio devices.
A recall was issued a number of years ago for the BKA-1000 amplifier for this serial number range:
BKA1000-4A-A0005570 --- BKA1000-4A-A0005815
Shaker Centre generally gets its supplies from them, & contact them for technical issues:
It may be worth calling them.
as always many thanks for responding
the amplifier in the wireless is a bka300-4 and not the bka1000. Not that this should make any difference I believe.
i tried a number of configurations
1, used the y-splitter to connect into sub and rf transmitter first, the y splitter goes into sub output on my da5400es.. Result :sound through sub but nothing received at buttkicker.
2, checked the transmitter and receiver were synced. Believe they are, repeated test 1 no difference.
3, swapped the cables on the y-splitter, ie to prove no issues on the y splitter. Got sound through sub on both connections, nothing at buttkicker
4, decided to eliminate the wireless and wire direct to bka300-4. Again didn't work?
that said I do see some feedback, quite literally e.g you know if you hold the end of the RCA into a powered sub and it booms, on the transmitter for the buttkicker there is a left & right socket, the manual doesn't state which input to connect the sub to. At one stage I discounted from the left socket to plug into right. In doing so, when the connector nearly out the buttkicker vibrated immensely, similar to sub booming when you hold the end. So it indicated that the wireless if does work. But if you push the connector in fully nothing, in either socket?.
can you think of anything else for me to try?
Bear in mind that the buttkicker doesn't kick in all the time, only when the frequency is low enough. Test first scene of The Dark Knight.
Tried it again with Dark knight - works!!
observations, the only difference was that I had switched all my kit off over night. The dark knight was key since when I re-tested against the av test tone the test tone barely registers, so the frequency mustn't be ideal for the bk?
So this morning, reconnected on a wired set up and it worked . I had originally tried saving private Ryan, again there are some rumbles but nothing what you would expect. The dark knight and Star Trek truly kick butt .then tried the wireless, no problems - worked as well??? Can only assume switching all the kit off unlocked any gremlins?going to try out a few movies this week to put it through its paces, do you have any other reference movies/scenes to try it out?
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