Jase Brown, if you asking, i dont recommend anyway position speakers near the ceiling.Speaker must be at your ear level while you seated.(speakers tweeter).It will be interesting to look at your room, because you say no place for A40.maybe you have photos?I recommend to use A40 as a center channel, not a10.I think always is possibility to use a40...
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Thanks for the update on the situation paulbroke!
Glad your subwoofer doesn't have any issues then! You know, it's funny but in the back of my mind I wondered when I read your posts if MA had possibly changed the top blue LED-function in newer production versions. Thanks to you we now know they have. Lame they didn't update the manual?! Both of my AW-12's are earlier versions than yours, in other words...
...and draws more power in standby mode
Current A/V equipment:
NUFORCE AVP-18 (processor/DAC) | NUFORCE MCH-300SEC7 (multichannel amplifier) | MONITOR AUDIO APEX (5.2 speaker system) | SAMSUNG LE-52B755 (tv) | DENON DBT-3313UD (disc transport) | NAIM UNITISERVE (music server) | SUPRA (cabling) | LOGITECH HARMONY 900 (universal remote) | NORDOST PULSAR POINTS (isolation feet)
Hi Ricky, thanks for the reply. Nice picture.
I know what you mean about placing the speakers to high. I am trying to make the best of one of those compromises you mentioned. The problem is, the dedicated stands for the Apex would leave them to high for my wife. One of the speakers would be above the windowsill in my room. I could look for other stands, but I feel this is also a compromise. I'd like the top of the speaker to be no higher than say 90cm. Any suggestion?
Thank you Jase
So, if I understood you correctly (it's still early morning for me here, hehe) you have the choice of either placing them high up close to the ceiling or reach no higher than 90cm from the floor? In case I missed something could you not consider placing the front trio of speakers ontop an a/v cabinet, similar to what I have done? (photo in my previous post) Since you can't have them at ear height the Apex stands have to be ignored in your case. My front trio of speakers are placed about 50cm from the floor, and the top of the standing pair of A10's then ends about 75cm off the floor. Naturally this would depend on the height of your a/v cabinet. But perhaps you can't have a cabinet?
Other than that I would suggest possibly looking at something like Atacama stands as an alternative? They have a few models that they produce in several different versions/heights. The Apex have rounded edges, as you know, and the A10's may be tricky to place ontop of alternative stands (unless you flip them over horizontally) but I guess you could use the supplied table-top feet that come with the A10's and place them ontop the stands? Just a suggestion.
How that suggestion would work aesthetically I'm not so sure...
Ricky> on the stand and speaker on feet seems a little bit unstable, what do you think?i wall mounted my back pair of a10m - no problem:)Maybe i'm crazy, but Jose can modify standart Apex stands to be lower...Or better modify wife opinion :)just joke
Yes RickyDeg, this is not an issue but MA support has replied about flashing issue as below. I think the blue led light flashing is an issue of this new future...
"I have never heard of the LED flash. It is not something that it would do normally.
I am not sure why the LED would flash, as I said, I haven’t heard of that happening before."
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the Aracama Nexus stands look an interesting option.
It would also be interesting to see if the MA stands can be cut down as Greedy says?
As anyone seen or heard of this being done?
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Jase, I sincerely hope greedy was joking! To shorten the MA Apex stand would likely not be possible, which you would understand once you see how it's constructed. Also, it has internal cable wiring inside of it. So you'd do best in forgetting that idea altogether.
How about the a/v cabinet suggestion? Is that not an option for you?
Jose, i think better change furniture, to be more compatible with all stuff..then you can use A40 as center and all will look super:)
If someone could let me know how to post a picture, I'll put up a picture of my setup so you can see my placement issues.
Jase, in the open comment field you simply click on the green tree symbol ("Insert/edit image") and a little window will pop up where you paste in the Image URL of the photo/graphic you wish to add. Either copy an already existing URL or upload your photo to an online host (Photobucket, Tinypic, Flickr etc) and grab the URL from there. You cannot upload the photo directy to this site.
Setup my Apex last night and i was slightly dissapointed. The sound just wasnt' as open as i've had in the past. The fault most likely lays with my front two channels not being far apart enough. They sit on the wall roughly 2-3 inches either side of the tv. Bare in mind my tv is an ultra wide Phillips so not exactly small in width.
Gunna try open up the speakers another few inches tonight, see if that helps.
P.s. on a plus note, the sub is awesome :-)
Any constructive suggestions are welcomed.
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Thanks for the feedback atkins4725!
Personally I have no issues with the sound not being "open" or "large" enough, in fact that is probably one of the strongest attributes of Apex as far as I'm concerned, plus the "airy" and "lively" sound they produce. And my front trio of speakers are placed very closely together! Naturally what you expect to get depends greatly on your point of reference. But definitely allow them the running-in period they require (Monitor Audio say about 80-100 hrs, I say around 200 hrs) but most of all play around with placement if your room and decor allows that. Possibly look into the acoustic environment aswell. Maybe show us some pictures of your set-up and how the room is layed out.
Also, I take you have run the Audyssey calibration on your Marantz? All 6 or 8 measuringpoints? Remember to carefully re-calibrate after each change you make and especially after they are fully run-in. The effect Audyssey (and Dynamic EQ in particular) can have on the end-result is largely significant. It certainly has been on my Denon (and the Onkyo I recently tested).
BTW, it's funny hearing you say the subwoofer is awesome but the satellites a slight disappointment. For me it was the other way around as the subwoofer sounded rather "thick" and uncontrolled before it was fully run-in. Slowly it blossomed and started to impress a great deal.
Well.....that didn't work !!
Not to worry, I'll do it for you
Look at that cute little baby to the right, hehe. That is not the AW-12 sub on the left though is it? I just remembered you had the RXW-12. Sorry, my mistake!
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