Hi ric71, thanks for this. No i havent had a chance to get a demo yet, happening this Saturday so i'll get back to you guys with some feedback. Im just trying to work out the logistics of the cabling in advance so if i do go for getting the extra A10s.
If not you'll get your second AW-12 sub, right?
Or you plan on getting both?
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lol i'll go for the AW12 for sure if i dont get the 2 additional A10s. Otherwise i'll wait for a month or so to get the AW12. But i think it will improve the soundstage by having the 2x AW12s.
And you're absolutely correct that this is a very expensive hobby , the problem i have is that im always thinking of ways to get the best out of the system.
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Yes, it would be fascinating to hear possible benifits you'll experience having two of them in your room. Especially since you got the dual sub calibration in Audyssey Multeq XT32. As you probably read in my review of the Onkyo TX-NR5009 my own pair were kept under amazingly tight control with an iron fist. Ontop of that low-level detail was projected more clearly into the room aswell. Just to name an example for you: the LFE-channel on "The Dark Knight" never sounded so good!
I'm missing the dual sub calibration of the AW-12 to be honest
http://www.homecinemachoice.com/news/article/monitor-audio-apex-pound;24... nice review, maybe someone dont read yet..
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So i had my demo for dsx and dolby pllz with heights and wides, and it blew me away! Dsx sounded much richer and made the soundstage wider. Even without the wides it still sounded a couple of steps ahead of a 5.1 system. I went for heights as i dont have space for wides, placed an order for 2x A10s.....and i would only do this if i was impressed and heard a big improvement which i did.
Avatar was one of the discs used for the demo, the jungle scene was amazing, heights kicked in and the animal sounds were coming from the height channels. Also the bulldozer sequence...the trees crashing down sounded AMAZING!!
Awesome gosalh, awesome!
I had a feeling you'd be impressed. I have been too after the demos I've had. I can imagine it sounded pretty impressive with DSX Wide, but those channels can be even more difficult to accomodate in the home listening environment. There were however a few soundtracks where I found Pro Logic IIz or DTS Neo:X to sound more "natural", but it's a preference issue I guess. Bet your Denon A-100 will continue to impress you even further now!
Let us all know when you've installed the new set of Apex and please give us your extended listening impressions with varied material. And don't forget to show us your set-up (which we still haven't seen, hehe). Now I suppose the additional AW-12 will have to wait a while huh?
hehe yep i couldnt resist temptation and purchased another two A10s :-s
I'll probably hold off on the additional AW12 until Xmas time. But i will post system pics once i get the new heights in place hopefully by the coming weekend. Will send you details of my listening experience with the A100 integrated with the heights.
Im also thinking of getting mood lighting LEDs to stick behind the TV area to add that extra touch. Have you (or anyone else) ever used mood lighting to add that cosmetic touch to your system?
That's an interesting idea gosalh! Ambient lighting behind the TV! No personal experience yet but I have seen cool examples online (recent one below). I know IKEA have a few LED strips you could use for this purpose. Some fasten them on the back of the display panel itself (mimic Philips TV's).
As a sidenote; I'm wondering how you will solve the issue of cabling those additional A10's as they will likely be mounted high up on your front wall? Or are you placing them ontop of bookshelves perhaps? This is the biggest problem for me personally because I have no bookshelves or possibility to integrate cables inside the wall itself. One of the worst things I know are cables dangling on the wall or trying to "hide" them with ugly looking cablestrips. But that's just me.
Yeah that was the dilemma i had and the wife was against the idea of having heights. I did a lot of thinking on what the room would look like with the different trunking configuration. The room itself has a lot of classic coving, decor etc so im going to use micro trunking (magnolia - to match the colour of the walls) and hide it as best i can with that. I already have trunking on one side of the TV which i couldnt avoid or hide. So 'm going to try placing the speakers at the top left and right corners of the white center section of the wall (see the poor quality pic i took with my phone).
If you have any suggestions on what best configuration could work please let me know.
p.s. before anyone asks, just to be clear that radiator was disabled since the day i purchased the system.... Unfortunately the other side of the room wouldnt work as i have a window there and i wanted to install the TV and A40 on the wall. So the sofa, foot stool and rear A10s with stands are on the other side. I'll take a proper pics of all components of the system and post it up soon so you can get an idea.
YAY! Thanks for showing us your set-up gosalh Always a pleasure seeing other peoples entertainment rooms, especially if they have some of the same stuff as you do, hehe.
I can see now how you plan to manage the cable issue. Might be tricky but with some patience and adequate material I'm sure it will turn out good. However, I lack any good suggestions. Hopefully it will be rewarding once you pop in the first Blu-ray to have a listen with 'height'!
How do you like those stands for the Apex? Are your pair of rears also placed on those stands? As you may remember from my photos I only have stands for the rear pair. Also, have you taken the covers off the speakers to listen to them like that for a while to see how they perform? I personally can't cover mine up, since it takes away some of that lovely treble I adore so much. Plus I love how they look without the covers, but that's always a matter of preference.
Hi RickyDeg, yeah i have the stands at the rear as well. I think they're well built and serve their purpose. But I dont know how good Monitor Audio's brand of audio cable (internally wired) is compared to using QED or some other top brands.
I left the speaker covers on, as the wife didnt like the bare look (i had to compromise somewhere lol). I sometimes take the speaker covers off and put them back on. It doesnt make much difference to my listening experience to be honest. Also keeps the dust off the drivers.
I'll post more pics with a decent camera once i get the new speakers fitted. Plus i'll showcase my audio rack with the Oppo95 and Denon A100.
P.S. to all on the thread, if anyone has any other suggestions on how i can best trunk the height speakers, really appreciate any help you can give
Interesting, cause I too was concerned about the cable Monitor Audio use in the Apex stands. Essentially because one is now mixing two types of cables to these speakers. This was one of the reasons I was reluctant to get these stands, but it's difficult to place the A10's (because of their design) on other "normal" stands and make it look nice. I'm still playing around with that option though so I can run a cable of my own choice all the way to the speaker.
In terms of installation of cables for your 'height' speakers have you considered checking up on cables with a self-adhesive backside? That way you could simply run it discreetly along whatever you wish without using trunk or cablestrip that would be more visable. I know I've seen some high-quality brands who carry that type of cable but I just can't remember which ones. They were also very flat and hardly visable. You could even paint them to the color of your wall if you wished. They also had the same cable but in "normal" construction should you want to use that for other speakers. Maybe you can check with your dealer about those or how to get a sleek installation?
Good point on the self adhesive cables, i had no idea such things existed. I'll look into it and get back with some feedback. And good point on painting them, this will probably be a better solution especially if the cable is flat.
gosalh> i want to help you with cable instalation.From what material your wall is made?is it light construction( from Knauf gips for example)?
The wall is made of solid brick construction. I dont want to start etching into the wall to hide the cables, too much hassle and extra cost. Hopefully one day when we do some home improvement i'll get the room done properly. Im open to any suggestions you may have.
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