The Apex Club
Does anyone have any experience of the MA (Apex) sub versus the BKs?
michael hoy:Flyman,
I think the Apex sub would be more than adequate for your room, it is quite a powerful beast when played hard.
Hi michael hoy,
So how does it perform at lower levels when listening to music or general tv viewing?
Hi Gerrardasnails,
Do you know if there's much difference in performance between the RSW12 & AW12 sub?
Flyman:Hi Gerrardasnails,
Do you know if there's much difference in performance between the RSW12 & AW12 sub?
I don't but I expect them to be very similar.
before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
Dean
Hi ric71,
Really appreciate the info here and I'll keep in mind what you say about the running in and setting-up.
No doubt I'll be back very soon asking lots of questions!
I've just discovered that I can't get the SC-LX83 into my cabinet as its too deep so thats now ruled out. 
I'll have to see how the Yamaha and the Denon compare at the demo as these two will fit thank goodness!
Thank you for your kind words on the room its nice to hear compliments like that 
- revised pictures to follow...
dirtydean:before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
Dean
I also feel left, out do I qualify for this club. Or do I need to start my own, the MA HD club?
I demoed tthe apex range today, which had the AW12 as part of the package(of course, Doh) the AW12 sounded much more controlled an had better timing than the RSW12 IMO (I had an RSW12 on home demo for 2 weeks). And the aesthetics are much better too.
Flyman:
michael hoy:Flyman,
I think the Apex sub would be more than adequate for your room, it is quite a powerful beast when played hard.
Hi michael hoy,
So how does it perform at lower levels when listening to music or general tv viewing?
It performs just as well at low levels, it has subtlety and brawn in equal proportions in fact it is just a delight to listen to, you will not be disappointed.
Flyman:I've just discovered that I can't get the SC-LX83 into my cabinet as its too deep so thats now ruled out.
I found that out as well with the 72, forgot to check the depth of the amp and ended up removing the lower back portion of my cabinet.
The Yamaha amps should be good with the Apex as well.
I did prefer the Pioneer to the Denon though.
dirtydean:
dirtydean:before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
Dean
I also feel left, out do I qualify for this club. Or do I need to start my own, the MA HD club?
I took a couple of blu rays I was familiar with and had pre-listened to the scenes I wanted to demo before I went, to make sure I wasn't imaging any perceived improvements.
For me the apex shone in 2 areas, high tone detail (which where very similar to the RX1's I owned previously) and the depth of the vocals on the mid range. Which happen to be miles better than the R250HDs I owned (he says boxing them up for their new owner).
dirtydean:before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
Dean
Hi dirtydean,
They may well have been badly set up but unlikely,they may not have been run in?
It is more likely that you prefered the Radius HD. They are great speakers and I use the The R90HD's as rears. It is all a matter of personal taste .
ric71:dirtydean:before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
DeanHi dirtydean,
They may well have been badly set up but unlikely,they may not have been run in?
It is more likely that you prefered the Radius HD. They are great speakers and I use the The R90HD's as rears. It is all a matter of personal taste .
It could have been the crossover setting. I've just replaced R90s with Apex A10s and my rear speakers have come alive! Massive improvement. My rears can now compete with my front three.
ric71:dirtydean:before Christmas I had a listen to the apex with a Denon 3311 and preferred my set up (as below) am I missing something or do you think they had them setup incorrectly in the shop.
DeanHi dirtydean,
They may well have been badly set up but unlikely,they may not have been run in?
It is more likely that you prefered the Radius HD. They are great speakers and I use the The R90HD's as rears. It is all a matter of personal taste .
It could have been the crossover setting. I've just replaced R90s with Apex A10s and my rear speakers have come alive! Massive improvement. My rears can now compete with my front three.
Flyman,
Gorgeous room by the way. Make sure you post some pics when all installed
ric
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