I have recently change to Apex A40s across the front, fantastic speaker and the integration with my Monolith sub is excellent (crossed over at 100Hz and sounds really good)
How have you mounted the A40's for front left and right.
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I had a chat with MA on this, and they recommend either horizontal or vertical for the A40s (they see no issue either way)
So I have the centre horizontal under the tv, wall mounted and angled up slightly, and the L&R are mounted vertically, approx 2.2m apart with the centre of the L&R speakers approx 600mm higher than the horizontal speaker (if that makes sense??)
Sound stage is enormous (I would have liked them slightly wider but compromises and all that) and the energy these speakers produce is quite special
The sub is crossed over at 100Hz and the integration is quite seamless.
Very very pleased.
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Thanks for the reply, considered 3 A40's myself but will need to wait while we revamp the room.
Thanks I will take another look at the BK range of subwoofers. I see there is a lot of love for the Monolith.
Is the monolith, fast, fluid, punchy and deep? Some ported subs can be a little one noted and boomy.
I think £1k is as far as I can stretch the budget. Are there any other subs which are a good match with the apex speakers that I should short list?
Velodyne EQ-Max 12?
Monitor Audio RXW12?
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In perfect conditions the monolith will give you perfect bass.
I doubt you will have perfect conditions in your room but in the right hands the monolith will be awesome no question.
However The owner of BK I think his name is Tony suggested to me the Monolith if more for films and the XLS400 if more for Music.
I have managed to get the XLS400 to do things people wouldn't realise possible from one / a sub in terms of bass clarity, control and impact. Its a great sub for the money and a great sub full stop. A lot of the lower registers the XLS400 puts out are lost in my listening room I get down to 30-35hz and then its dropping off (factoring in I have a hard knee house curve)
Most people probably assume their getting deeper bass than that because they got a lot of rumble but they would probably be horrified to learn that is probably a big peak at 50-60hz their hearing that's all.
If you think you can correctly place and control the monolith then it will no doubt be an awesome purchase. If you have only a corner to place it in then I would get a sealed box sub such as the XLS400 - you will not be dissapointed.
The only alternative I would look at above it is this in my mind http://www.kreiselsound.com/subDXD12012.php
Thats where my money would go
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Thanks... I have few options regarding location of the sub mainly along the long 30 foot wall but it will need to close to the wall.
I will look at some reviews of the BK subs.
Its corner placement that generally causes the issues - a sub like a monolith doesnt need corner placement / room reinforcement to do deep bass.
It does flat to 20hz in free air - awesome thing
I would recommend the AntiMode room correction unit unles you have Audyssey XT32 (is it) or Anthem ARC to room eq the sub
Very please with ours, may look in the future and aMK or KK unit, but the BK does a fantastic job, especially at the price point.
Fully agree also that the XLSS400 or the Monolith would do the job, just a preference between sealed (more "musical") or ported (greater depth and grunt)
Oh, decisions, decisions!!
The BK do seam to get good reviews. its a shame they don't do a Lab 12 Eminence 12" Sub Woofer with the BSBPV 500 500W Active Sub Bass Panel amp in a box a sealed box a little bigger than the XXLS-400.
Is there any way to get a demo of the BK subs?
Their Monolith+ has the better Lab 12 and a 500w amp, but a ported design though
Strictly mail order unless you are close enought o pop in to them, located in Southend IIRC.
I fancy a the Monolith+ lab12 speaker and amp in a XXLS-400 encloser. I guess I could always make my own...
Making your own is a great way to go, but getting the same frequency response from the driver in that small box is most likely not possible - hence the use of such a big box.
If you wan the XLS400 sized package - consider that sub - that still uses a Peerless XXLS12 which is highly regarded and costs roughly the same to buy as a Lab 12
Yes I would model the box size with software as the driver specs are different, the bk monolith box is larger at 95L mainly due to the ported configuration. I would think a 70-75L sealed box would be close as a guess without doing the calcs.
Recommended Enclosure Volume for the LAB12
Sealed 28.32-118.93 liters
Vented 39.64-141.59 liters
But speaking to BK they commented "If you looking for a musical subwoofer then the XXLS400 is the best option as this uses a Peerless XXLS12 drive unit. This is designed for music in mind and is far more musical that the Lab 12"
So maybe their off shelf BK XLS400 is the way to go and save some money.
How does the BK XLS400 compare to the Aw12, Monitor Audio RXW12.
I have upto £1k to spend and the BK XLS400 is about half my budget which sounds great, I’m just checking if other options will give me greater performance with both movies and music?
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