speaker package for a Yamaha rx A3020
My view is the 3010 is the steal of the century - I got mine a few months ago and it's a beast! So, grab one while you can as they won't last much longer.
As for the Apex shout, I would say they are very good but not great. I used to have a pair for my rears but replaced them (decorating instruction!) with in wall speakers and the result was a better sound for nearly half the price. As for Apex or M1s versus floorstanders - no comparison. Go for the RX6AV package.
The CM9's were recommended with the Yamaha A3020 in the latest mag as the big speaker pachage, so CM8's may work well.
having looked at the B&W CM8 they won't suit as I need wall mounts . Thanks
To be honest, rear speakers hardly have much job to do, as compared to fronts. Front & centre is where speakers should be tested for their performance instead of rears.
They're are not as important I agree but when you get it right, they can make a huge difference. I was mightily impressed with my Apex speakers but my in wall rears are a lot better and I've heard no sat speaker system that can touch a very good full sized package.
In essence, compact speaker systems aren't really meant to touch full-sized speaker systems in the first place. They are two different types of animals. Both have their strengths and both have their weaknesses, no doubts about that. For example; there is a reason must studio mixers use small-size satellites as oppose to full-size speakers in professional studios and having the same at home can prove equally benificial in certain terms. However, listening to full-blown 2-channel stereo music with a pair of capable floorstanders can be hard to beat. Having that said, I use to have a pretty high-class Focal Electra 926 full-sized speaker system years ago, and despite being double the price of my current Apex I find the latter way more thrilling on multichannel content than the otherwise fine Electras where. But so many factors come into play here it's difficult to think of it in black-and-white terms.
You need to hear a Ken Kreisel designed sub/sat system for movies then - for movie reproduction, there's no comparison 
You need to hear a Ken Kreisel designed sub/sat system for movies then - for movie reproduction, there's no comparison
Those would be killer fun to audition! When are they out in stores?
His website is a bit... uhm, tricky and lacking with info. Unless I've missed something.
As for the Apex shout, I would say they are very good but not great. I used to have a pair for my rears but replaced them (decorating instruction!) with in wall speakers and the result was a better sound for nearly half the price. As for Apex or M1s versus floorstanders - no comparison. Go for the RX6AV package.
Hi Gerrardasnails,
Did you used to use an Onlyo 875? If so how does the 3010 compare?
Thanks
You need to hear a Ken Kreisel designed sub/sat system for movies then - for movie reproduction, there's no comparison
Those would be killer fun to audition! When are they out in stores?
His website is a bit... uhm, tricky and lacking with info. Unless I've missed something.
The Quattro range has a worldwide launch about mid February, so products should be with us and on demo by the end of the third week in Feb.
An open day will follow that once the Duo range is launched
How about this idea then re the 3020/3010 debate.
I am being told that my existing yamaha z9 will have better amplification than these flagship amplifiers as much of the investment is now going into the processing side and the extra gadgets around airplay etc. (I started a thread in AV receivers on this but may not need it!)
If I am to lose sound quality by replacing the Z9 for a modern flagship then should I opt for the 3010 which will offer the HD decoding and processing and pre-amp the Yamaha z9 as the driving force? if that's the right term.
May be a little extreme to have two great boxes in the room and might not please the wife. Thoughts???
I'd be interested to.
You need to hear a Ken Kreisel designed sub/sat system for movies then - for movie reproduction, there's no comparison
That would be madness. The 3010 is brilliant.
How about this idea then re the 3020/3010 debate.
I am being told that my existing yamaha z9 will have better amplification than these flagship amplifiers as much of the investment is now going into the processing side and the extra gadgets around airplay etc. (I started a thread in AV receivers on this but may not need it!)
If I am to lose sound quality by replacing the Z9 for a modern flagship then should I opt for the 3010 which will offer the HD decoding and processing and pre-amp the Yamaha z9 as the driving force? if that's the right term.
May be a little extreme to have two great boxes in the room and might not please the wife. Thoughts???
No, never had an Onk. Before I had the Sony 3400ES. Enormous jump to my Yammy.
I do struggle to see that the Z9 would be markedly better at amplification and therefore noticeable in sound quality - not that I am doubting the store I am buying through - after all it would be in his interest for me to replace the Z9 and buy an AV amp from him!
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Yes then put that extra 1000 into the CM8 package.
These Monitor Audio Apex boys.... Trying to run the world :)
The CM9's were recommended with the Yamaha A3020 in the latest mag as the big speaker pachage, so CM8's may work well.
The Apex though was also suggested as an alternative. The OP may want to pick up a copy as it's pretty relevant this month
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