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It's all very well nitpicking, but I bet there were people slagging off 2001 when it came out, and saying, "that's impossible", or "this is just pie in the sky stuff". with science fiction, are we only to believe what we can prove? With anything we can't prove, we have no frame of reference.

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Ya I just marked that down as incompetence. There were too many scenes like this to mention.

I hear ya. Just felt like mentioning that particular scene cause it kinda represents the stupidity of the entire script. I wonder how it would have played out had it not been for Damon Lindelof and Jon Spaihts clumsy writing. It kinda hurts knowing that Ridley Scott obviously approved of it all. But given that he apparently liked it  :O:O:O I suppose it says unfortunate things about him that I dont care to know, and I normally admire his work. Then again, nobody can get it right each time.

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I think I'd like to suspend my disbelief with this thread...   :roll:

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In Alien, Ash was decapitated by whacks from a heavy fire extinguisher, so impact-damage would've caused his 'shutdown'. Whereas David's bonce was pulled off, which is consistent with Bishop still functioning after being ripped-in-two in Aliens.   David was able to monitor/communicate with Prometheus remotely, so he could've sensed the engineer approaching/entering Vicker's Prometheus survival pod? And David could've merely heard the engineer exiting the crashed ship? Hence, warning for Shaw.  Inter-galactic travel in all SF films is bunkum. Never mind cryo-sleep and artificial gravity, there's the overlooked issue of distance: to reach such far-flung worlds within a practical journey time - ie, months/years not decades - would require propulsion/speed exceeding the speed of light, the theoretical consequence of which is, obviously, time travel. Which is a whole new can of wormholes and paradoxes. I'm not qualified to comment on how the combined effects of ingesting a sentient black 'oil' and an alien serpent, and one's face/helmet imploding, might create a zombie. But I'm guessing headache at best, zombification at worst is not too much of stretch? And perhaps black 'oil' + serpent = zombie was also what affected the engineers, hence the pile of engineers' skeletons and the fleeing hologram?  David didn't kill Holloway, Vickers did, and she wasn't aware of David's experiment. Also, I'm not aware of any indications that Holloway and Shaw's 'coupling' was part of David's plan? Interesting to note that initially Ridley Scott wanted to be the producer, leaving the directing to his protege Carl Erik Rinsch, but Fox insisted Scott direct.

FWIW, I read it that the Sacrifice Engineer was a dissident acting alone - might partially explain why the engineers want to wipe out humanity - thus his 'evo tech' was relatively low-fi? Although, creating a new species from decomposing DNA is still pretty savvy in my book, although I suppose he could've waived a magic wand, or created Adam and Eve.

In Alien, Ash was decapitated by whacks from a heavy fire extinguisher, so impact-damage would've caused his 'shutdown'. Whereas David's bonce was pulled off, which is consistent with Bishop still functioning after being ripped-in-two in Aliens

David was able to monitor/communicate with Prometheus remotely, thus he detected the engineer approaching/entering Vicker's Prometheus survival pod? Or David could've merely heard the engineer exiting the crashed ship? Hence, warning for Shaw. 

Inter-galactic travel in all SF films is bunkum. Never mind cryo-sleep and artificial gravity, there's the overlooked issue of distance: to reach such far-flung worlds within a practical journey time - ie, months/years not decades - would require propulsion/speed exceeding the speed of light, the theoretical consequence of which is, obviously, time travel. Which is a whole new can of wormholes and paradoxes.

I'm not qualified to comment on how the combined effects of ingesting a sentient black 'oil' and an alien serpent, along with one's face/helmet imploding, might create a zombie. But I'm guessing 'headache at best, zombification at worst' is not too much of stretch? 

And perhaps black 'oil' + serpent = zombie was also what affected the engineers, hence the pile of engineer skeletons and the fleeing hologram? 

David didn't kill Holloway, Vickers did, and she wasn't aware of David's experiment. Also, I'm not aware of any indications that Holloway and Shaw's 'coupling' was part of David's plan?

Interesting to note that initially Ridley Scott wanted to only produce, with his protege Carl Erik Rinsch directing, but Fox insisted Scott direct.

 

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A prequel to Alien??? Huh??

Looks like you didn't understand the film. That last xenomorph-like alien who burst out of the Engineer's chest was the prequel to the Alien series. Despite Dr. Shaw warning not to come to this moon looking for them, Weyland Corporation sends a team. It helped that I watched all 4 alien movies only last month Smile

We watched the film today. I thought it was brilliant. We enjoyed every bit. Sure, there were some loose plots, but they were far less than the original Alien series'.

Remember that the film was shot entirely with 3D cameras. So the 2D was actually converted from 3D (presumably by ignoring pictures from one of the 2 lenses :?  ). So true videophiles, wanting to watch as the director intended, should watch in 3D  Wink

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apologies up front, i've been offline for most of this week so missed most of this thread and i'm too depressed (broken hand = no golf = miserable rich) to read through the almost 100 posts so far.

Anyways...

I recently went to see Avengers for the 2nd time.  First time was IMAX 3D which aswell as being visually awesome is sonically EPIC.   The second was in Cardiff's Showcase cinema, the first time i'd been there for about 2yrs, and I wont be hurrying back.  It didnt lose much of its visual impact but the sound was muddy as hell and I would have sworn on my grandmothers ashes that not all the speakers behind the screen were working correctly as most of the sound was comming from the top right of the screen (at least thats what I thought).

For that reason alone i'll be going to watch Prometheus next week at Cardiff's IMAX screen and though I am well aware of the split opinion i'm still really excited.

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I'm not qualified to comment on how the combined effects of ingesting a sentient black 'oil' and an alien serpent, along with one's face/helmet imploding, might create a zombie. But I'm guessing 'headache at best, zombification at worst' is not too much of stretch? 

 

 

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So, have ignored this thread until tonight when I saw the film at the Waterloo IMAX. A bit too close to the screen, but the cinema is fantastic. Only watched the first trailer before seeing the film, didn't read any reviews etc. so had no real info about film and no real expectations (other than the obvious ones being a big Alien fan). Very simply, my one word review for the film is...

Meh.

Done.

 

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So, have ignored this thread until tonight when I saw the film at the Waterloo IMAX. A bit too close to the screen, but the cinema is fantastic. Only watched the first trailer before seeing the film, didn't read any reviews etc. so had no real info about film and no real expectations (other than the obvious ones being a big Alien fan). Very simply, my one word review for the film is...

Meh.

Done.

ROFL

Kudos for taking the 'short & limited' rout with this "review" of yours. Nice contrast to the rest of us, hehe. I totally got what you meant.

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So, have ignored this thread until tonight when I saw the film at the Waterloo IMAX. A bit too close to the screen, but the cinema is fantastic.

So you now know which seats to book for The Dark Knight Rises when advance bookings start tomorrow  Wink

 

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professorhat wrote:

So, have ignored this thread until tonight when I saw the film at the Waterloo IMAX. A bit too close to the screen, but the cinema is fantastic.

So you now know which seats to book for The Dark Knight Rises when advance bookings start tomorrow  Wink

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It's all very well nitpicking, but I bet there were people slagging off 2001 when it came out, and saying, "that's impossible", or "this is just pie in the sky stuff". with science fiction, are we only to believe what we can prove? With anything we can't prove, we have no frame of reference.

 

I still haven't saw 2001.... I did start to watch it many years ago but it was too boring and my mind wasnt child-like enough to grasp what they were tyring to achieve..... it is (my mind being child-like) now though so maybe I'll give it another look see and report what I think about it.    Wink

 

Like I've said before Promethius was mega in picture and sound but not too clever otherwise (for me)  I DID find they big baldy fellows scary nonetheless. I'd hope that there Will be a follow-up and these big baldy manacing fellows are the bad guys to be wrecking havok rather than the normal alien freaks.

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bigboss wrote:

ooh.. wrote:

A prequel to Alien??? Huh??

Looks like you didn't understand the film. That last xenomorph-like alien who burst out of the Engineer's chest was the prequel to the Alien series. Despite Dr. Shaw warning not to come to this moon looking for them, Weyland Corporation sends a team. It helped that I watched all 4 alien movies only last month Smile

We watched the film today. I thought it was brilliant. We enjoyed every bit. Sure, there were some loose plots, but they were far less than the original Alien series'.

Remember that the film was shot entirely with 3D cameras. So the 2D was actually converted from 3D (presumably by ignoring pictures from one of the 2 lenses :?  ). So true videophiles, wanting to watch as the director intended, should watch in 3D  Wink

I got the general jist of it, but thought it was very poorly done, there was zero suspense, none of the crew had any sense of self preservation, and there were many silly moments, IMO. 

Basically, I thought it was rubbish  Smile

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