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I have no idea as to why folk want to keep 'quoting' others then take a swipe ?
The movies are like most other things in life...... you DO get to have an opinion and whatever that opinion is it should stay just that .... too many all wanting to argue .... to press home THEIR point of view
Give it a wee rest I say and try to understand that others may have a differing point of view it's also pretty pointless pointing towards other forums for back-up like the Rotten Tomatoes given that there are many movies that are complete pants that have been given good/decent write ups and vice/versa.
Believe in what you watch for yourself and form your own opinion then if so inclined .... give an opinion.
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Indeed ... but it seems so volotile (written) at times and I'm a pacifist.... surely ALL are entitled to their own view without argument as such ?
Opinions are what set us apart (at times) , give an individual his place to say what he/she thinks I say.
This film has undoubtedly divided opinion with alot of criticism being aimed at Plot , characters, reality checks , lazy film making etc etc..
IMO Ridley Scott made absolutely the film he wanted to make... to take back his original creation and give it a new direction with a backdrop of the biggest questions we as a human race have to ask "What,where,why,how did we come to being". This is evident thoughout the film. I feel it reflects on us as a human race through time past, present + future. Standard SCIFI/Horror with a deep subtextul core underneath.That's how i saw it.
If you got a problem with the film that's your problem not Ridleys.
I'd be interested to see if opinion changes with the repeat veiwing on blu-ray..... i always remember watching Ocean 11 and thinking it was rubbish and when i watched it sometime later again i loved it so i know you can change your mind about a film.
Despite what I think of the film I'm looking forward to my next viewing (on Blu-ray) regardless, but mostly just for the home theater experience. A close friend whose taste I fully trust saw it again last night though, and all he got out of his 2nd view were more evident flaws, so I'm doubtful. And sorry, but I dont agree that if a film lacks the ability to engage me it's my problem - it's the films problem (not soley "blaming" Ridley Scott here). I'm just the spectator, not the creator. But no one film can please everyone. Divided opinions will always exist. We all know this.
Everytime I watch The Terminator , I see more and more flaws. I still love the film more and more with every watch though.
Still havnt managed to see Prometheus. I have literally been working my socks off. Very excited to see it, as Alien is in my top 5 all time favourites.
I love science fiction, even some of the bad films make you think. For instance, Contact, had so much potential to be one of the greatest movies ever made....( just check out the opening scene, travelling through space with the radio playing, great cinematography) unfortunately it was the best and worst movie of all time, at the same time! I still watch it regularly, even with the massive amount of flappy acting.
So, they're all on the ship and merrily heading towards a Planet that they're pretty sure is inhabited by some kind of lifeforms. They reach the Planet (at this point we know a little about the two loved up doctors and the robot, the rest of the motley crew are just "there"), what do they do? Survey it? Go through what may or may not be there? What possible dangers they may face? Well, no not really, they're made aware that the CO2 levels are too high and 2 minutes breathing the air and you're history, then they just land at the first sight of "straight lines that God didn't make", put on their space suits, safe in the knowledge that some Scottish chap has a flame thrower to protect them, pile into an ATV and a couple of buggies and head on over to a giant mole hill that's hollow.
They go inside and start walking around aimlessly, relaying everything back to "the captain" who seems like he'd rather be watching a ball game somewhere, then they realise that the air inside is safe to breathe (at least in that one spot on the Planet that they now know is inhabited by "something"), so they all take off their helmets, leave them on the ground, and wander further into the Martian wonderland without a care in the world, sure there's aircon, they'll be grand (maybe there's a Mcdonalds in there too). They trot around for a while, oblivious to any airbourn viruses that may be deadly, until they stumble across all sorts of weird and wonderful things, at which point the Geoloagist throws a tantrum, shouting that he only went along to the Martian Planet to "study rocks".
They bail out but the Geoloagist and some other chap get left behind, the Captain just tells them to chill with a little wry smile as he heads to crash out for the night. But the boys are curious and instead of doing what mummy would have told them, and staying nice and quiet by the exit, ready for a morning pick up, they go wandering around, talking loudly while stumbling over lot's of things, waking up all the inhabitants of the mole hill, until of course they get killed by a cross between a king cobra and an Eel, oh well.
Lot's of other weird things then transpire on the ship, one of the doctors starts getting very old looking and when he gets naughty the ships owner burns him to a crisp with her state of the art modern weaponary, a flamethrower. The other doctor gets a take away abortion and starts running out of "theatre" the minute she's stitched back up. We still know nothing of the motley crew that's left.
Ah I give up, but I'll try to carry on, a load of other mindless stuff happens and basically, the care free Captain is told by the doctor that's had a monster plucked from her half an hour before yet runs like Usain Bolt, that the big ship that's taken off has bad things on it, so the Captain suddenly gets all noble and decides to become a Kamikaze pilot, (no more ball games for him) and two other chaps that had no emotional connection to him or anybody else, agree to help him kill them all by ramming the Alien craft at great speed, so they eject a little pod for the doc and put their feet down and blast after it as it's trying to get away, they must have covered a good 50 mles at warp speed yet once the two ships collide, they land back where they both took off from, squashing Charlize Theron (who cared? The robot had more character) whilst nearly squashing the doc.
She jogs over to the pod, probably a little tired after the express monster abortion and all the running, and is saved from certain death at the hands of a big angry chap that's a few thousand years old, by a huge air breathing octopus that looks like something from a 50s B movie, then she goes to rescue the robot and they just go and get another ship and fly off into space together.
A prequel to Alien??? Huh??
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Alien, now there's a movie ...
So WHEN you read that first paragragh...... jump off ...... sorted
Perfectly summed up... Just how easy was it to get the 2nd ship BTW, was there no baddies in the second dome and if not how
Unlucky where they to pick the inhabited dome first time round!
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Perfectly summed up... Just how easy was it to get the 2nd ship BTW, was there no baddies in the second dome and if not how Unlucky where they to pick the inhabited dome first time round!
Ya I just marked that down as incompetence. There were too many scenes like this to mention.
Its sooooo easy to write simplistic summaries like Max's, and they can be written about absolutely ANY movie, including the best movies of all time. Doing so doesn't make a film seem stupid or pointless.
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Well just got home from seeing the movie and you know what, I really enjoyed it. It's a space movie so none of it is believable regardless of anything. Most movies have their flaws/mistakes etc but as a movie if you don't take it too seriously it was great entertainment.
Fantastic sound and great picture quality for a change.
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Yes actually that was my first thought but such an advanced species can't figure out another way to kick start their "experiment"?
OK ya lets say giving exact home location isn't the best idea but they give a military installation? A place with weapons that could pose a huge threat to themselves? Judging by the end where David finds out their home land don't you think that's pretty stupid? The holograms were also hilarious. So instead of a system where visuals and audio could be accessed from a centralised location they are super ineffeicient and you basically have to follow them. Kind of illogical but again this isn't a gigantic problem.
Regarding the cyborg I was talking about the time when his head gets pulled off and how he/it is still functioning. How he knows jockey is coming for her is anyone's guess.
Ya in 80 years our tech will be crazy but considering the fact it took forever to get the f-22 I don't see a deep space ship with artificial gravity and some sort of hibernation pod happening anytime soon. OK this is a nitpick and not really a big problem but I laughed.
How was there a zombie at all? The movie hinted that the black liquid breaks down organic material. How does it go from that to reanimating a dead guy? That liquid was also a pretty elaborate way to take us out. It's kind of like a guy slowly lowered into a tank full of sharks with lasers (Austin Powers).
Cyborg infects guy because he said he is willing to do anything to find answers. I got this but how does killing him accomplish anything? He was banking that he would have sex with that girl and the alien would answer any sort of answers. Don't buy that, especially conidering his programming couldn't be that messed up.
As I said before one could come up with an explanation for several of these but it's a stretch IMO. You could do that with every movie that had plot holes ever. I don't believe a film has to hold your hand all the time but it also can't leave too much to the viewer.
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