When I owned the previous M&K MX5100SF sub from Ken Kreisel it was one of the best subs ever made and I have owned and heard a lot of subs and this new KK sub improves upon his previous generation so I am sure the new DXD12012 would be a clear winner when it comes to shear performance, Kens subs produce prestigiuos amounts of slam and punch when it comes to movies which is why studios love his subs and they are also fast enough to handle music with the finesse that it requires!!
KEN KREISEL Q125 Speakers LCR & CS29 Surrounds - KEN KREISEL DXD808 Quattro Review Coming Soon - Denon AVR4520 - Oppo BDP93 - Himedia HD900B - PS4
Even Rob (FoS) Sinden was blagging it when he stated a few times in this thread that the new Subwoofers were coming early in 2012:
There is also still the question of who originally started the thread. An unkown entity that always seems to pop up when products distributed by Gecko are involved. Coincidence? Not likely.
Lol! Gecko have nothing to do with Ken Kreisel products!
I was referring to the post by Al that the MK Sound subwoofers are imminent. They have been for a year now.
Lol, my bad sorry
I'd much rather go with the subs from whom they tried to copy in the first place, and the new generation of Kens subs are the dogs danglies!
From all that I have read MK Sound products are not inferior to the old M&K. They are a Danish company that bought all the design rights and have been manufacturing them to identical standard. They have even improved on the M&K 150THX with the MK S150 mk2. They still supply studio's around the world. Yes they are now manufactured in China like alot of other high end gear.
I have been reading up on them as I'm possibly interested in a full 5.0 MK S150 THX set up. Any views appreciated.
Anthem MRX 510(used as processor),Anthem Statement A5 power amp,MK MP150MKII's LCR,MK S150T surrounds,Paradigm Signature Sub1,Perfect Bass Kit,Sonos ZP90 ,Qnap NAS,Oppo BDP 103 Multi region,Isol-8 Cleanline2 mains conditioner,SKY+HD,Audioquest Diamondback interconnects. ATV3,iPad4,Panasonic TXP50GT60
No one is saying they are inferior, I just put my own personal opinion across, in the fact that I would rather purchase the products from the man who originaly designed what now MK Sound are continueing to sell.
I had the original M&K full S150 set up and they were stunning, but cannot vouch for the MK Sound versions as I have not heard them, personally I would wait until KK brings out his new range of speakers which is his next generation of his legacy.
Identical standard? Definitely not. For one the cabinet was not as good as thinner MDF was used. I cannot comment on the driver and amp as only Ken could probably compare them and say what the real differences really are.
The MK Sound S150 Mk2 was just the S150 with the 'professional' tweeter and a tweek to the crossover. This tweeter was based on the 'professional' tweeter Ken used in some of his products. So nothing designed or improved by the Danish company.
Gecko would have you believe that MK Sound are used in Studios. But funnily enough the list of Studios is exactly the same as the original M&K list. Make of that what you will.
I too would wait for Ken's replacement like recruit has already mentioned.
I would keep a look out for Ken's new Q Series, which is due imminently. I believe this is being touted by Ken as an improvement over his S150 design, and in a more acceptable cabinet. I also believe there will be a direct S150 replacement due next year too.
David @Frank Harvey Hi-Fi, Coventry
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Cheers for your views.
He's more interested in Jl Audio now
Sony vw1000es (2K4K pj) /3.6m Seymour Screen/Pioneer lx6090 & Pioneer 428xd/Mk sound s150 x3 & Mp150 x4 / Paradigm Sub2 (7.1)/Anthem d2v / Ab Poweramps 3400 & 4300/Oppo93 /Chord / Ps3 / Ipad3 / Lutron Grafikeye/
I have a lot of respect for JL Audio subs but they are ageing now and have been around for quite some time, I really do like the KK approach of upgrades, as in the stacking formation plus he knows a good thing or two about how subs are built, seeing as he was the first person to introduce them to the mass market!
Why be envious v1c? Saturday 1st December.... >)
I've just realised i'm on hols that week with the 1st in
I'm 99% to be there.
The new reviews on AVFourms and Secrets of home theater are rather good as well i see.
Make that 99.99 % chance of seeing me there.
Pioneer :- KRP500A, BDP LX55, SCLX-71/
MK Sound :- M7 LCR, M4T rear, KX12 sub/
Chord :- Odyssey 2 LCR, Rumour 2 rear, Cobra sub, Active Silverplus HDMI x2, Power Chord x4, Chameleon Silverplus/ IR dock
Arcam :- IRDock / Focal Lab :- Spirit One/
Black Rhodium Power Management.
We are no longer going to demo a pair of dual DXD12012's, because that sort of goes against the ethos of them (timing). Because we can't currently fit in a single Quattro stack, we will be demonstrating a single stack of three. I'll be setting it up about a week or so before the day to make sure everything is running fine, and give me time to tweak it to death
Yeah don't worry thats not going to put me off David.
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