Music and Home Cinema
Hello.
I would like to replace my KIIRO DA-AV5 all-in-one system (no DTS or DTS HD or HDMI etc) something that I can listen to music as well. I was thinking perhaps of using my existing Mission 751 speakers as the front pair and buying Q acoustics for centre rear and sub. I have a Cyrus II and PSX PSU and a TEAC VRDS10 which I've played my music on for 20 years. So the music quality is really the most important aspect of any new setup. Would an AV receiver plugged into the Cyrus amp be the best option? I read somewhere that you could do that.
Any advice would be very much appreciated,thanks.
Indeed you can, a Cyrus amp will certainly benefit you for music. You would run your fronts off the Cyrus delivering a better stereo performacnce. CnoEvil is very good on this topic, so I'm sure, when he see's this, he will advise you
The Onkyo TX-NR609 does not have pre-outs!
I would have had to spend another £300-£400 to get an AV amp with pre-outs so I decided to spend the difference on a seperate set of av speakers - I started with the MA BX2 & centre first (£350) and added the surrounds and sub (soon) at a later date.
I use the 609 everyday for TV, films and internet radio - it's a great amp. But for CD sourced music I use my hifi.
Sorry for long delay. Been very busy with this and that. Now have time to reconsider options, and thanks for above replies. However, after much discussion (lots of it) I (we) have decided that it is time for a compromise and therefore I need to seek towards a single solution that can handle both HC and and be as kind to my music as possible. Okay, I'm aware of limitations, but needs must and all that. With this in mind, could anyone here give me any advice on partnering the following equipment?
LG 42LA620V
ONKYO TXNR818
Cambridge Audio Azur 752BD
I was thinking of maybe trying the existing Mission 751s as front speakers in the set up and use them for stereo music as I do now, and use my existing Audioquest Crystal speaker cable, except get the connectors at Cyrus amp end changed to 4 connectors (the Missions are biwired so cable is 4 to 2 so I'd need to get them modded to 4 to 4) and bi-wire at the Onkyo end as well as I think I read that was possible. Also thought I could use my existing Audioquest Emerald interconnects (I use it between the TEAC VRDS10 and Cyrus) and use it between the AC Azur and the Onkyo for audio CD listening. Then get speakers and cables for surround sound, like the Q Acoustics range.
I'd appreciate any advice here.Thankyou very much.
CnoEvil is very good on this topic, so I'm sure, when he see's this, he will advise you
Pressure!
(Sorry only spotted this now)
Here is how I'd be thinking (and it's personal)
- Given you like Cyrus, check out Pioneer as well
- Audioquest make good cables
- The front 3 speakers are better matching
- Conider Kef R Series / LS50 if budget allows for front
The Onkyo TX-NR818 or another AV amp in the same price range will give you lots of features including the pre-outs that would allow you to use your Cyrus amp for 2 channel music. But I would be more concerned that your front and centre speakers match tonally, and that when you complete the 5.1 speaker set up - that all the speakers are at the same SQ level (price band).
Personally I decided to do without pre-outs and use the cost difference towards purchasing a corresponding 5.1 speaket set up.
If your 751's are 'keepers' find a matching centre speaker, or if you can be patient, decide on a 5.1 speaker range that matches the 'level' of the 818, and purchase them piecemeal as and when you can afford them (getting the centre first).
The only way is to compare them to see which combination suits.
One suggestion I would make though is to try a Panasonic BDT 500 Blu-Ray Player, (As it’s designed to be good with music) and with the money saved go for a more expensive AV Receiver, as the more expensive ones tend to be better with music. (The larger Pioneer models are tuned by a professional music studio (Air Studios) so should definitely be on your list)
NOTE: Try the Panasonic using both its digital and analogue outputs.
Hope this helps
Bill
the 751s are still great speakers,see my sig,75 series come up all the time on the bay, keep a look out for a 75c got mine for 50 quid in mint condition,use my system 50-50 music,movies and continues to blow me away,you really should match speakers.





Does anyone know whether an Onkyo TX-NR609 would be suit my purposes? Would it be okay with music? Although I'd like the home cinema sorted, I mainly listen to music ...it is of primary importance but then I wouldn't want to be just 'putting up with it' for the home cinema.
Thanks.