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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

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Thanks for the comprehensive review.

In the sense that the bits between the programmes on ITV are reviews?

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Paulsalford wrote:
Hello WhatHI forum

I'm considering buying a set of  these KK speakers for use in a dedicared home cinema room which is 3.7m x 2.8 m.

Welcome to the forum Paul Smile

Oddly enough, my listening space is 3.7x2.8m!

Now there's a coincidence!

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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

spiny norman wrote:

FrankHarveyHiFi wrote:

Paulsalford wrote:
Hello WhatHI forum

I'm considering buying a set of  these KK speakers for use in a dedicared home cinema room which is 3.7m x 2.8 m.

Welcome to the forum Paul Smile

Oddly enough, my listening space is 3.7x2.8m!

Now there's a coincidence!

I've just double checked to make sure I didn't make any mistakes - its actually 3.7x2.9. An extra inch goes a long way  :grin:

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spiny norman wrote:

jcshutts wrote:
Thanks for the comprehensive review.

In the sense that the bits between the programmes on ITV are reviews?

in the sense that he can tell me more about the product than you can

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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

Have you tried bi-amping the Q125s David?  If so, worth doing if you have spare channels available?

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Have you tried bi-amping the Q125s David?  If so, worth doing if you have spare channels available?

I was quite surprised when I unboxed them to find they're were bi-wireable/bi-ampable. I'm assuming it is because these use four HF units and that they reach down much deeper than conventional speakers (down to 1250Hz) that this feature has been added. Since setting them up in our demo room, I had forgotten about this feature! Unfortunately, the cables that are chased into our walls are two to four, so not proper bi-wiring, and prohibits us setting anything up bi-amped, but to be honest, kit like this sounds pretty amazing even when you don't bi-wire/bi-amp.

To answer your question, I haven't tried it yet, but when I set a pair up in our two channel demo room, I will try it. If you have the spare channels aavailable to bi-amp, then I'm sure it'll make a worthwhile difference, otherwise Ken wouldn't have included the feature.

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Does a onkyo 818 would be capable enough  to feed  the ken kreisel  speakers in  5.1 with dxd-808 sub. 

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Does a onkyo 818 would be capable enough  to feed  the ken kreisel  speakers in  5.1 with dxd-808 sub. 

thanks 

Well the sub isn't an issue as that should be chosen on the performance you require, but as far as the speakers are concerned, they seem fairly easy to drive. Of course, like all well designed speakers, their performance will rely somewhat on the partnering amplification. I haven't tried them with an 818 yet as we sold ours off a while ago when we found out we couldn't get any stock for a month or so. There are claims around the internet that the 818 will drive more demanding speakers fine, so based on their opinions, it should have no problem with the Quattro range.

I haven't had time yet to try them with a more budget amplification as we've been running them in on pre/power combos. I won't be able to try anything in the next couple of weeks as I'm preparing for an open day and I'm quite happy with how they're sounding with the existing amplification. After that day though, I'll try a few amps out - I think the nearest one I have to an 818 is the Pioneer SCLX56.

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David, did you have the open day for the range?  was there much interest?  It would be nice to hear from any customers that have bought a set up and what their experiences are of the sound and setting them up??

 

Is there any news on the detail around the new range coming up? will the 150 replacements be of a similar price to the old ones or are they likely to be more expensive do you think?

 

 

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Hi JC

The open day is on the 27th April i believe. I've had my Q125's a few weeks now and they are a good step up from the M&K 850's I upgraded from.  Biggest improvement for me is with music, believe what David says, they are great musically as well as with movies! I'm really pleased with them, Ken is back and on form, can't wait to find out what else he has in store for us.  

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Thanks DC good to hear....do you mind me asking what you are driving tthe with?

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David, did you have the open day for the range?  was there much interest?  It would be nice to hear from any customers that have bought a set up and what their experiences are of the sound and setting them up??

As already mentioned, it is next Saturday. I wasn't expecting as much interest as we normally get with our open days as it hasn't been as widely promoted, only really on AVF (I don't think WHF like that sort of thing :)). I'm glad it will be a small event though, as it allows me to do some 'closed door' demos, which is better than people just wondering in and out of the room all day.

To be honest, most purchasers so far haven't been via forums - as we're about 25 years old and dealt with the old Miller & Kreisel since its launch in the UK (around 1994), we have quite a database of M&K users who have shopped with us for a long time who are switching over, as many of their M&K systems are now 5-15 years old - things improve over time. As the new speakers have only been out for five weeks, it'll take time for opinions to appear, but rest assured, they will.

 

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Is there any news on the detail around the new range coming up? will the 150 replacements be of a similar price to the old ones or are they likely to be more expensive do you think?

I've had a few small details that hasn't been mentioned, but I'm afraid I can't mention them - don't worry though, only a week or two to wait Smile

As far as the direct S150 replacements go, who knows what the price will be. Obviously they won't be too close to the Quattros (about £1500/pair), so my guess might be something like £2.5k per pair. This might seem a bit high for an S150 replacement, but bear in mind that the Quattro Q125 exceeds the performance of the S150 for  third less, so a direct S150 replacement is going to be another step forward again. Then again, they might be priced at about £2k per pair like the older S150's! All that is a pure guess on my part though, as prices are never revealed until closer to the launch.

 

All that has been stated is the following:

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Stay tuned for some exciting news about the new KEN KREISEL Sound LifeStyle QUATTRO SLIM's, QUATTRO MINI's, DUO's & TRIO's, the groundbreaking SEI Sound LifeStyle 11.1 speaker system and the new line of Super Sound Bars and Home Theater Screen of Sound speaker systems
  We can safely assume that Quattro Slim are a slimline version of the current Quattro, there are already photos of the Duos out there, and the Trios will utilise three HF units. I've not idea what form the Quattro Minis will take, but I'm assuming they'll still use four HF units, otherwise they wouldn't be called Quattros! The lifestyle ones will be interesting...

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It will be I interesting to see what's being launched.it may be a toss uup between the more expensive units and 5.1 or the 125s with 7.1. Wonder what will sound better

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jcshutts wrote:
It will be I interesting to see what's being launched.it may be a toss uup between the more expensive units and 5.1 or the 125s with 7.1. Wonder what will sound better

With how good the Q125's are, it might be that the next model up might not sound any better, it could be more of a power handling upgrade, as some speakers suit much larger rooms than others, and others are better suited to smaller rooms.

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Thanks DC good to hear....do you mind me asking what you are driving tthe with?

 

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