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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

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KK has announced two ranges coming this year I believe. What is the second range?

As mentioned, the Duo range is the other range which will hopefully be around the beginning of summer. This will be a step down from the Quatrro range, so effectively entry level for the tme being. With any luck we may see an S150 replacement by the end of the year. There are plenty of other products too, but I know Ken likes to be 100% happy with everything before releasing a range.

For your info John, tracking online points to delivery tomorrow....

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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

thanks David.  Is the S150 replacement supposed to be a step up from the Q125s?  I am assuming so?

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Great stuff David I am very eager to hear your thoughts. 

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thanks David.  Is the S150 replacement supposed to be a step up from the Q125s?  I am assuming so?

It certainly should be! The replacement for the S150 has a lot to live up to. The active version of the S150 has been used in studios the world over for well over 10 years now, and the original design dates back to the early 90's, so it is about time it was updated. What form this will take we don't know yet, so whether it'll be similar to the current one or quite different, we won't know until 4-5 months before its intended release date. 

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Any news David? Have Ken's babies arrived?

They have now....

In the demo room, running in - haven't had the chance to out the rears up yet.

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Great stuff!! When should we expect your detailed review? Smile

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Great stuff!! When should we expect your detailed review? :)

I'm not sure I'll be allowed to now...

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:wall:  post it up on the Hifix forum and we can all read it there then!

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If these are better than the S150's then they should sound amazing, i remember when I first heard a pair of decent M&K's I was gob smacked at how good they were and if Ken has made improvements with this new range then, well hearing is believing  Dirol

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whilst David is being restrained with how he describes the new range within the forum, he has mentioned to me off line that a customer has just ordered an 11.3 set up.  imagine that!  I'm sure neither David nor the anonymous customer will mind me mentioning it!

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[UNPUBLISHED - it's that sales pitch again]

I'll mention my thoughts so far, and lets bear in mind they have only been running in for about 10-14 hours so far. They're currently running bitstream from an Oppo 105 not a Marantz AV8801 to the Audiolab 8200x7, then fed to a 5.1 system comprised of the Q125 LCR, Q125 TRiFX, and a single KK DXD12012. I'm initially running the Q125 TRiFX as monopole rather than dipole or  tripole.

I managed to pop on a few clips before I left work this afternoon. I've been letting The Incredibles play all day (as it was a change from Star Trek all day yesterday), and I've been popping in and out of the demo room when I can. The scene where he is sneaking into the Syndrome's base by sabotaging the monorail is immensely impressive - the bit where the broken base of the monorail pulls up to the feet of the two guards and they look up to see the rest of the monorail carriage hurtling towards them sounds like something is landing on the room itself!! Coherence is as good as it has always been - the soundstage sounding like it is one rather than made up of several speakers. There's definitely something different about Ken's new designs - because of the use of four tweeters, they are set to crossover over at a lower frequency than normal - the lower treble/higher mid does seem to be a little clearer. I only picked that out because I know the M&K sound so well. 

I popped on Ratatouille after that - the bit where they get struck by lightning and the following escape from the house. All presented with excellent detail and attack. It does take a short period of adjustment, but once you do, you can't help but notice the attack these speakers have. 

The 8200x7 was only mildly warm to the touch after being run all day, so either it is a particularly good power amplifier, or the Quattros are quite easy to run in comparison with previous M&K designs.

I did try music briefly yesterday, namely Nine Inch Nails' Downward Spiral SACD, but they'd only been running a few hours, so I will refrain from posting about music until they've been run in properly and I get a chance to listen to them in a room I am familiar with for music.

At this point, we need to bear in mind that they've been running for 10-14 hours, are running with no room EQ, and have oonly had distances set correctly - even the levels have only been done by ear. These initial impressions are early ones, so are subject to change.

As someone asked me earlier - to sum up in a single sentence - I don't remember the S150's sounding this clear and open. And to think, there are two ranges pending above these!!

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RE: OMG!!

i know there are plans for a replacement to the S150 later in the year but what is the second range to be introduced above the Quattro 125?

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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

Above the Quattro range will be the S150 replacements later this year, and then above those will be another model - no details at all at this stage though, but the only model above the S150 Ken ever made was the S5000THX. I doubt we'll hear anything about these this year though, as there are other products being released over the course of the next 12 months.

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RE: Ken Kreisel Quattro Series

They sound amazing David! Thankls for the update!

 

Oh Lord, how am I going to hold out for Ken's S150 replacement now. :twisted:

There's a voice inside my head telling me "you might as well buy them now, the S150 replacements will be out of your budget, you're best trying to get a 2nd hand set a few years down the line" :grin:

 

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Why wait when they're better than S150's already? Unless you're a perfectionist  :grin:

I do see your point though - I may follow suit, not sure yet Smile

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