Are they going to sound much better for music playback compared to his old designs?
My 750s aren't that great at stereo tbh.
Have you had them yet Dave?
Your website states that they deliver stunning sound quality on music as well as movies. Is this true?
With the older Miller & Kreisels, the better sounding models for music were the ones using the 5.25" mid/bass drivers like the 650, 750, 850, and 150. Even so, music quality wasn't great, in my opinion. I think with the 750's they just lacked a bit of refinement. The 150's were more refined as they used three HF units instead of one, which meant that each unit didn't have to work so hard. The new Quattros use four, so things are looking good so far! The 750's weren't the best built speaker either (I used to own some), and while I loved the sound of them, it has to be said that their build quality drew a bit of attention to themselves sonically. The new KK's over the old M&K's is like comparing KEF Q series to the R series - the difference in build quality is leagues apart.
When I sold my last set of S150's, I replaced them with KEF Q300's. I didn't really expect the Q300's to better them, but it was the start of an exercise to find a worthy replacement for the 150's (Miller & Kreisel had closed its doors at this point and ceased trading). Whilst they were very good for the money, they fell short in many areas, but they were streets ahead when it came to music. The Q300's just made them sound musically flat, sounding fully three dimensional in comaprison, which meant these £2k per pair speakers were being outdone by a pair of £500 hi-fi speakers for music.
Will the new ones improve on the old ones for music? I'm sure they will, firstly seeing as it has been many years since Ken's original designs were developed, and secondly because it was the main area that was open to the greatest improvement, and with Ken being first and foremost a two channel enthusiast who records his own music, I'm sure he will have improved this aspect this time round. How good they will be we will find out next week.
What I find exciting is the fact that Ken has a potential S150 beater here in a 750 sized/shaped package. Many used to want S150 performance but refused to buy the squat box the S150 drivers inhabited purely on looks, but now that they can get that (and possibly more) in something more slimline and conventional looking, and certainly more accommodating - I think Ken might have a rather hot product on his hands here. And all for less than the S150 too...
David @Frank Harvey Hi-Fi, Coventry
Mitsubishi HC7000 / Oppo BDP103 / Audiolab 8200AP / Rotel RMB1575 / kick ass speaker system
It would be great if we could write our own profiles, but in reality, with well over 4,000 products on the website and growing, which naturally produces a constant stream of discontinued and new products, it would be physically impossible to maintain. As it stands, we usually have at least one person working on web profiles for products, with help from one or two others every now and again. Even then, we have to resort to copying and pasting from the manufacturer's web page for the product in question, and unfortunately there will be some of the usually sales talk that you will see on their pages. I'm assuming we have taken those profiles from L Sound's web pages (I'm not sure as it isn't my department).
Exactly how good they are for movies and music we will find out towards the end of next week. I will have a set at home for assessment purposes (as will my colleague, both of us are very used to the old M&K presentation), and rest assured I'll be reporting what I find, as there are many interested people out there wanting to know (as well as myself!). Plus, with this new range being designed by the guy who produced the best home theatre loudspeakers on the market (his designs are used in studios all over the world) under the M&K banner, there's a lot of excitement and anticipation, especially after the reception his new subs have been getting recently.
Thanks for the replies David, I look forward to your thoughts.
Yes the old M&K S150's were not the best with music. However the MK S150MKII's are a different kettle of fish. They sound stunning with music.
They employ new "pro tweeters" which have made all the difference. Build quality is superior too.
The new KK's will be superb in every respect I suspect,and I will admit in a more aesthetically room and wife friendly cabinet.
Anthem MRX 300(used as processor),Anthem Statement A5 power amp,MK S150MKII's LCR,MK S150T rears,Paradigm Studio Sub15,Perfect Bass Kit,Sonos ZP90 ,Qnap NAS,Pioneer BDP-LX55,Isol-8 Cleanline2 mains conditioner,SKY+HD,Audioquest Diamondback interconnects. ATV3,iPad4.
How much are the MKIIs Ric?
Not as cheap as the KK's at £1095 each. It will be interesting to see how they compare from a £ point of view too.
Any news David? Have Ken's babies arrived?
Should be any day now John (I know your name is probably not John Holmes, but I don't use forum member's real names on forums unless they do).
I'm sure one or two might be interested in this - a quote from somewhere else by some lucky so and so who got to visit Ken's California showroom...jealous? Me? Naah....
Careful David: remember House Rule No.12: "Trade members, dealers, manufacturers and their PRs must not use the forums to blatantly 'promote' products they sell or distribute."
Andy Clough is Brand Editor of What Hi-Fi? Sound and Vision and whathifi.com
That's just a review by a normal member of the public after visiting Ken's showroom. He didn't buy anything, he's not promoting anything. I thought it would be of interest to those who are interested in his products. If you feel that is too much, feel free to remove it. It is available for all to read on another forum.
KK has announced two ranges coming this year I believe. What is the second range?
That'll be the duo range I believe which is a step down from the quattro.
David: yes I read that very lucky dudes report over at mad house. Sounds like we are all in for a treat with his new designs.
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