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RE: I was wrong about HDMI cables!

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What has happened here is that you have imagined these differences. This is nothing to feel embarrassed about, and is perfectly understandable, you're not the first and you won't be the last.

Why do people imagine these things? Well, many reasons really, the power of suggestion being one of them. 

Look at these two reviews of HDMI cables.

In this one they stateCompare the ThatCable HDMI to the free stuff, and you'll immediately see – and hear – a big improvement. 

Yet in this one they say - Compared with a  ThatCable HDMI (£5), this served up a thin and brittle sound, while motion handling, picture noise and sharpness of images also fell woefully short of what we’d expect – even at this price.

It is not possible that these two cables could somehow produce different images and sound, but if one doesn't know this, you could forgive them for imagining such differences, if they demoed both these cables having first read this misinformation.

Here is a video that gives you the truth about HDMI cables. The guy that's being interviewed is Jeff Boccaccio, an authority on digital data transfer. He is being interviewed by a member of AVForums.

ThatCable advertise with WHF, and Lindy advertise with AVForums. Which may explain WHFs views on the different cables. Or perhaps their reviewers were just imagining things. Either way, the truth about HDMI cables is that they cannot offer different performance, so while it's a bit late for you now, in future, just buying cheap ones is the best bet.

 

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RE: I was wrong about HDMI cables!

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She was unaware of the test I was conducting...

I wouldn't bet on that.

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Gel to answer your question.

Due to these so called reviews and expert opinions for years I did not touch a HDMI over £5, because like they mentioned and have done many times over a digital signal cannot be made better by the materials used as it's either there or not (1's and 0's) Then you have the HDTV supertest that really took it to task and compared £5 to £200.  

This Chord Silver was the only one I was willing to try due to the noise cancelling chip. Since bringing this home, I have noticed a difference. I am not saying its changing a 6k setup into a 30k setup with one cable. However with bigger displays like the 65inch panasonic there is a visual difference and certainly a sonic difference, probably in part to the chip.

My question is, have people tested this cable or any other so called high performer and compared them? or are you like me speculating based on reviews, like I had done for years?

 

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cstanwhf wrote:

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 there is a massive boost in sound quality, the sound was sharper, crisp and punchier. Picture was also warmer, deeper in colour and rich.

Pretty much in tune with the review from WHF? Smile

http://www.whathifi.com/review/chord-company-active-silver-plus-hdmi 

Wow yes! I have to stop reading these reviews its influencing the language I use! Smile

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Just curious,

If i have a 10 metre HDMI lead going into a Darbee picture enhancer, then a Chord silver going from that into my projector , would i notice an amprovement in picture quality for having it in the chain???

Thats direct from my Blu Ray of course.

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There is absolutely NO difference between good quality HDMI cables and expensive versions. (Cheapo cables tend to be poorly fitting and degrade over time)

 If you connect a processing unit (Booster Unit) between the player and TV (In other words make it active) then the processing unit can alter the incoming and outgoing digital information, however the cable itself has NO bearing on the change in quality, it is purely down to the separate (Or integrated) processing unit.

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chebby wrote:

duaplex wrote:
She was unaware of the test I was conducting...

I wouldn't bet on that.

 

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Can the OP describe how he 'tests' skyfall?

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Was there, by any chance, a special offer on the cables whereby you saved money?  It is just so difficult to not get caught up in the hype at the show, buy something and then take it home and not still believe it is wonderful; when you have been whipped into buying something you never believed in.

If it was no better when you got it home what were you going to do?  Rush back to the show and demand your money back?  It is almost impossible not to get whipped up by show enthusiasm and then admit to yourself that it was a waste of money.

We are all the same us dumb humans.  We believe what we want to believe come hell or high water.

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This is now discontinued, so it was a bargain at £40. Yes I could return them as I have purchased them from Audio T so the issues is not being stuck with them.  The euphoria of the show is very real, I was almost coming away with a 1k bluray player!  

People often forget that HDMI carries sound as well as picture and most of the tests revolve around picture quality as opposed to sound.  The sound quality from the cable is far better then my cheaper cable. Its certainly not me imagining it, I can hear it!

There will always be two sides to this argument, those that refute it totally and those that swear by it. My advice is, go get one and try it out if you do not hear the difference then you can return it. Richersounds will always accept them back (example of one retailer)  So you have everything to gain and absolutely nothing to lose. 

 

 

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BenLaw wrote:

chebby wrote:

duaplex wrote:
She was unaware of the test I was conducting...

I wouldn't bet on that.

 

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Can the OP describe how he 'tests' skyfall?

Using my LX54 in Bitstream mode, through to the AV (LX83) which then feeds the Panasonic TV. Connections in between are the Chord HDMI cable. For Music, I have my PC connected to the AV using FLAC files and WAV ripped to about 40mb to 120mb per song.

Is that what you wanted to know?

 

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People often forget that HDMI carries sound as well as picture and most of the tests revolve around picture quality as opposed to sound.

They also forget its data that's being carried, not magic that requires a 'specialist' company dabbling in some black art to get right

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abacus wrote:

There is absolutely NO difference between good quality HDMI cables and expensive versions. (Cheapo cables tend to be poorly fitting and degrade over time)

  Bill

I don't know why I get involved, but...

You sir are wrong. Your statement was made as a fact, so's mine.

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What puzzles me is why girlfriends/wives only walk in after a cable change and comment.

Apparently you can change the whole system and they say nothing.

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What puzzles me is why girlfriends/wives only walk in after a cable change and comment.

Apparently you can change the whole system and they say nothing.

ROFL indeed, but I have mine well trained to appreciate good systems.

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daveh75 wrote:

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People often forget that HDMI carries sound as well as picture and most of the tests revolve around picture quality as opposed to sound.

They also forget its data that's being carried, not magic that requires a 'specialist' company dabbling in some black art to get right

Which cables are you using with your setup? I assume cheap like I was, so my next question is have you tried out alternatives?

 

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