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Home cinema advice please!

I have a 46" 1080p Sharp hd TV with blue ray player.  But I'm considering getting a projector in the near future now as I dont think i'm getting the cinematic experience I was expecting.  Why is it when adverts for films that come out on dvd on the tv the preview is full screen.  But when you put any dvd in the machine you get the black lines top and bottom supposed cinematic look.  The only thing you seem to be able to do is zoom in but that chops off some of the sides.  When you are using the HDMI lead that takes away the functions of the visual formats in your menu so you have to watch it with the black lines.  I take it then the best home cinema set up is to go for a projetcor?

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Re: Home cinema advice please!

You asked this before here - there are several replies.

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Thanks for the reply, just never saw my question on the forums page. Projector it is then for watching films.  It just something vendors will never tell you when you buy a tv.  I wonder why tv adverts for films now out on dvd are potrayed in full screen format. Just something that would confuse and annoy every joe bloggs punter out there. Maybe shops would not sell so many tv's if the films that were being played with a price tag on them if they were all in widescreen format.  In all the high street shops selling tv's i never saw a film being played in widescreen, only full screen, showing off the size of the screen...I wonder.

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Well, most TVs are 16x9 format, so the screen's about 1.77 times as wide as it is deep - ie 1.77:1, Most movies are made in formats between 1.85:1 and 2.35:1, so when shown full width they will have the black bars top and bottom.

Most TVs have a zoom function to fill the screen, but of course you do then lose some content at either side of the screen.

Films trailers on TV are usually either zoomed in this way or 'panned and scanned' to suit the TV format - it used to happen a lot more in the days when all TVs were 4x3, or 1.33:1, and usually looked somewhere between horrid and comical.

Movie companies choose to release films in their original format on DVD/Blu-ray Disc a) because it's easier and b) because it lets you see the picture as the director/cinematographer intended.

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Hi,

'As the director intended' - the director intended it to be shown on the 'big screen' at a cinema which is usually 21:9 or thereabouts.

TV's are 16:9 nowadays and Bluray discs are meant to be shown on TV's (or projectors).

Why can't two editions be on the one disc? An 'as the director intended 21:9 version and a 'cropped for tv' version?

Bluray offers the space for this (3 version of Close Encounters on one disc) and a lot more people would be happier with their tv's/dvd releases.

Alternative is to start producing tv's in the 21:9 aspect ratio so we can fill the whole screen.

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Cofnchtr.

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I think they probably will make films that fill the whole screen in the future when enough people moan about it.  Then I'll have to buy all the films I have for me and the kids again, but in a different format.  I try to tell the kids that when i was there age I had to batter the telly to get a decent picture.  Their hardship to think back on i guess would be having to sit through a good film with the image not on all of the screen.


Thanks for the info.


Matty

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You'll still get the same letter-box format on your screen - everything WILL be bigger, though!

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Cofnchtr:Alternative is to start producing tv's in the 21:9 aspect ratio so we can fill the whole screen.

 

Would you not then have vertical black lines when watching TV programmes?

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Yup. I still don't understand why people complain about this. If you like to be able to see the film "as the director intended" i.e. with the black bars, watch the film in the standard WIDE or 16:9 aspect. If you want the film to fill the screen, use one of the Zoom options - that's what they're there for!

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Yes but when you use one of the zoom functions the sides are cropped off.  Theres a guy awol from each side of a group of men you see on the screen.

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Maybe you could take your argument up with the director's of the world. If you don't agree with their artistic choices I'm afraid you'll have to lose some of your gents.

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Matty Fegan:Yes but when you use one of the zoom functions the sides are cropped off.  Theres a guy awol from each side of a group of men you see on the screen.


Yes, but that's a choice you have to make... you can't see everything without having black bars and you can't fill the screen up without cropping off some of the picture. It's simple physics I'm afraid!

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Maybe the directors of the world dont have to sit down like the rest of us plebs and watch a normal telly.  I bet he will be sitting with his feet up watching his films using a projector in the house how 'they intended' and you lot have all been brainwashed.

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Matty Fegan:

Maybe the directors of the world dont have to sit down like the rest of us plebs and watch a normal telly.ÿ I betÿhe willÿbe sitting with his feet upÿwatching his films using a projector in the house how 'they intended' and you lot have all been brainwashed.

I'm sure there is a monumental theatre with glorious THX sound at Skywalker Ranch, however Lucas will still be watching exactly the same aspect as the rest of us plebs. As mentioned earlier, a projector is your best bet for a bigger picture but I thought we had covered that.

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Matty Fegan:

Maybe the directors of the world dont have to sit down like the rest of us plebs and watch a normal telly.  I bet he will be sitting with his feet up watching his films using a projector in the house how 'they intended' and you lot have all been brainwashed.


Matty, I'm confused as to what you actually want?

Do you want Full Screen versions of films to be made instead of Wide Screen? If so, then you'll suffer from the cut off portions of the screen as we've already discussed as this is the same as using the Zoom function on the TV.

Do you want TVs to be made in Wide Screen size? Okay, but then normal TV broadcasts will have black bars at the side which is hardly ideal. We could ask all TV shows to be made in Wide Screen format, but Bargain Hunt and the like don't really necessitate the panaromic screen now do they?!

Do you want all film directors to start shooting their films in standard 16:9 format? Okay, but then we lose the impact you can get with a great film in the cinema... Also, I think you'll find most film directors will tell you to get stuffed.

I'm confused, personally I think we've got just about the right balance now...

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I think that sums it up very nicely Prof.

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