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DTS HD MASTER AUDIO vs DOLBY TRUE HD
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Is it me or is Dts hd master audio sound much much better than dolby true hd.

why is it a lot of blu ray movies are in dts ma and not dolby true hd not that i am complaining as i prefer dts ma.

Please share your experiences with the 2 if you have any.




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Re: DTS HD MASTER AUDIO vs DOLBY TRUE HD

hi bips


i must agree with you most of my bd are  master hd and i must say i have no complaints on sound or vision.hopefully will be better after a few tweeks on my system


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Have heard some fantastic Dolby TrueHD soundtracks - Batman Begins, The Dark Knight, Star Trek, Iron Man, Blade Runner and Any Given Sunday just to name a few.

I'm positive the quality of the soundtrack comes down purely to the quality of the transfer rather than which format is used.

 

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yes both formats are lossless,and i love both,might just be my old ears but dolby true hd sounds more open to me,But dts hd master gives more deep sounding bass,same as the old dvd days dts was awesome on dvd.

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So why is it that most blu ray dvds are in Dts MA is there a reason behind why a film company would choose dts over dolby

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You tend to find that fox,lionsgate use dts hd master audio.whilst sony pictures,warner bros will tend to use dolby true hd,its down to the mastering studio where the discs are audio mastered.

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sonycentre:yes both formats are lossless,and i love both,might just be my old ears but dolby true hd sounds more open to me,But dts hd master gives more deep sounding bass,same as the old dvd days dts was awesome on dvd.

But then I'm not aware of any discs which have the same soundtrack in both formats, so how can you compare them? On DVD, DTS was techinically superior to Dolby Digital due to the higher bitrate and therefore less information was lost. With both TrueHD and MA being lossless though, this doesn't apply any more.

Bips:So why is it that most blu ray dvds are in Dts MA is there a reason behind why a film company would choose dts over dolby

I think it harks back to the fact that, in the past, standard DTS was better than Dolby Digital on DVD and people therefore assume that the same is true on Blu-Ray. Personally I'm not convinced this is the case.

 

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Yes,thats true,but lossless or not sound engineers will use what what they think sounds best,the best comparison is gamer on blu-ray the us version is in 7.1,whilst the uk version is just 5.1,using two diffrent sound engineers.ther is alot more depth in the 7.1 version,and it has nothing to do with the extra 2 channels that are used.to me dts sound tighter,dolby sounds more open,but thats just what i hear.

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I can't believe it's down to the individual sound engineer which format is chosen - surely this decision comes from the studio / distributor and is more likely based on licensing costs rather than anything else I would have thought. The reason you get different formats being used in different countries is the differing distributor. As Ms Newsome pointed out on another thread, often the UK gets 5.1 tracks as the distributor needs to free up room on the disc for all the different language soundtracks required for the European release compared with the US release. And there's no way the 5.1 track is the same mix as the 7.1 track with just the extra 2 channels removed, so again, a comparison between the two isn't fair.

 

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Ill leave that thought with you then.

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Oddly, there are one or two discs that offer both lossless packaging formats (we've even got one in the office somewhere - it's a Japanese title I think, but forgive me, I can't remember the name).

Why include two competing formats on one disc? Can't think of a single sensible reason, quite frankly. So long as the sound included is of a half-decent quality in technical terms, I've always believed it's the sound designer (or designers) that makes the biggest difference to film sound, not the encoding system. Buy any movie with a soundtrack by Ben Burtt or Gary Rydstrom and you'll hear what I mean. Compared to that, the differences between DTS-HD MA and Dolby TrueHD are small beer. Of course, if my new Blu-ray movie turned up with 384kbps Dolby Digital I'd be narked, but that's another issue. 

By the by, I'm more than a little excited about the BD release of Saving Private Ryan (Rydstrom's finest hour, in my humble opinion).

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professorhat:But then I'm not aware of any discs which have the same soundtrack in both formats, so how can you compare them? On DVD, DTS was techinically superior to Dolby Digital due to the higher bitrate and therefore less information was lost. With both TrueHD and MA being lossless though, this doesn't apply any more.

You sort of get a feel for what's generally better sounding over a period of time. While there are some great True HD soundtracks out there, I tend to find more DTS-MA ones sound better. Just a generalisation, but my feelings nonetheless.


 

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sonycentre:Ill leave that thought with you then.

Which one's that?

 

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professorhat:But then I'm not aware of any discs which have the same soundtrack in both formats, so how can you compare them? On DVD, DTS was techinically superior to Dolby Digital due to the higher bitrate and therefore less information was lost. With both TrueHD and MA being lossless though, this doesn't apply any more.

You sort of get a feel for what's generally better sounding over a period of time. While there are some great True HD soundtracks out there, I tend to find more DTS-MA ones sound better. Just a generalisation, but my feelings nonetheless.

Possibly, but is that just that the better soundtracks which have been produced happen to be encoded with DTS-MA? The fact that fantastic TrueHD ones exist suggest this...

Personally I'm with Mr Kerr - the talent of the engineers behind the soundtrack (and of course the time afforded to them) is of far more importance than which lossless encoding format was used.

 

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DTS uses a higher bitrate than Dolby


'Lossless' means nothing really

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Bips:Is it me or is Dts hd master audio sound much much better than dolby true hd.

why is it a lot of blu ray movies are in dts ma and not dolby true hd not that i am complaining as i prefer dts ma.

Please share your experiences with the 2 if you have any.

Dolby TrueHD offers bitrates of up to 18Mbps while DTS HD Master Audio offers bitrates of up to 24.5Mbps, so your ears as well as mine agree that DTS HD Master Audio is the superior choice between the two audio formats.

The higher the
rate, the better the quality.

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