DTS HD AUDIO OUTPUT FROM SONY BDP 550 INTO MULTI CHANNEL ANALOGUE

cant hear you for the shouting,

 

and i is so hard to read i dont know if i can be bothered.

 

what disc?

Nads , that was not very helpful. It is discs plural .

Phew! At least the caps lock is off now

Alright , it was a civil question !

In the name of cod!

i have been reading a lot about 7.1 discs not playing 7.1 with some players and some amps.

 

More info needed.

 

I have never had a prob with a BD35 and the Onk.

 

People have mentioned that the discs have not been flaged correctly. hence the question what disc(

anderc02:

In the name of cod!

What's fish got to do/got to do/with it?

Ive seen posts like this quite often, and since i am unable to listen to HD audio at the moment, forgive my ignorance but lots of people what hi fi included have repeatedly said how good HD audio is, now if you go from listening to DTS audio to listening to DTS-HD master audio surely your ears will tell straight away if it is just DTS or not, you shouldnt need an av receiver to spell it out for you, or as i suspect, the difference isnt that much at all between HD audio and normal 5.1

eremis6:

Ive seen posts like this quite often, and since i am unable to listen to HD audio at the moment, forgive my ignorance but lots of people what hi fi included have repeatedly said how good HD audio is, now if you go from listening to DTS audio to listening to DTS-HD master audio surely your ears will tell straight away if it is just DTS or not, you shouldnt need an av receiver to spell it out for you, or as i suspect, the difference isnt that much at all between HD audio and normal 5.1

You can hear the difference straight away.

eremis6:

Ive seen posts like this quite often, and since i am unable to listen to HD audio at the moment, forgive my ignorance but lots of people what hi fi included have repeatedly said how good HD audio is, now if you go from listening to DTS audio to listening to DTS-HD master audio surely your ears will tell straight away if it is just DTS or not, you shouldnt need an av receiver to spell it out for you, or as i suspect, the difference isnt that much at all between HD audio and normal 5.1

But then if you've nothing to compare it to, how could you tell? Most DTS HD soundtracks I know of have only this, no separate standard DTS soundtrack included since this can be obtained from the core DTS HD track. So if you play the DTS HD soundtrack, how can you tell if it is actually DTS HD or if it's playing the core DTS track without anything to compare it to? That's where the issue lies.

professorhat:

eremis6:

Ive seen posts like this quite often, and since i am unable to listen to HD audio at the moment, forgive my ignorance but lots of people what hi fi included have repeatedly said how good HD audio is, now if you go from listening to DTS audio to listening to DTS-HD master audio surely your ears will tell straight away if it is just DTS or not, you shouldnt need an av receiver to spell it out for you, or as i suspect, the difference isnt that much at all between HD audio and normal 5.1

But then if you've nothing to compare it to, how could you tell? Most DTS HD soundtracks I know of have only this, no separate standard DTS soundtrack included since this can be obtained from the core DTS HD track. So if you play the DTS HD soundtrack, how can you tell if it is actually DTS HD or if it's playing the core DTS track without anything to compare it to? That's where the issue lies.

From my experiences when I've played Master and Commander from DVD (DTS) and from Blu-ray (DTS HD Master Audio)  the soundtrack is better from DTS HD Master Audio, also when I was setting my BDP up originally I could only get my receiver to display DTS. When I finally got it set up correctly it now displays DTS HD Master Audio and sounds better. I have not had any Dolby Digital HD discs yet to experiment with.
If I've still got it wrong please tell me.

No that sounds right, if amp is saying it's decoding DTS HD Master Audio, then you're definitely set. Unfortunately, you won't get this when using the multichannel outputs into an older amp as the OP is doing.

However, theÿcomparisonÿbetween Blu-Ray and DVD isn't really a fair one as (a) the DVD soundtrack and Blu-Ray soundtrack might be different due to different mastering etc. by the studio and (b) more than likely, the bitrate on the DVD soundtrack will be a maximum of 768 Kbps, whereas the core DTS track within the DTS HD Master Audio track on the Blu-Ray will be 1.5 Mbps - i.e. twice the amount of detail. Since the DTS HD Master Audio can be anywhere up to 24.5 Mbps, you can see why it should be a big improvement.ÿ

The only way I know to tell the difference between the two would be to connect your Blu-Ray player up with an optical cable and play the DTS HD Master Audio soundtrack (thus getting the core DTS track), then connect up with your HDMI / multichannel outputs and play the same track - if you're getting the HD track, it should sound better.

N.B. - 'Better' does not necessarily mean louder. Listen out for the details in the track.

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The point i was making though is for the sake of visiting blockbuster and picking up either a rental or a £4.00 second hand dvd you could have compared the dvd and the blu-ray which would have told you straight away whether it was HD audio or not.Unless the difference is not that obvious

eremis6:

The point i was making though is for the sake of visiting blockbuster and picking up either a rental or a £4.00 second hand dvd you could have compared the dvd and the blu-ray which would have told you straight away whether it was HD audio or not.Unless the difference is not that obvious

The difference is stark. The sound from Bluray films is amazing, especially DTS HD and PCM soundtracks.

Back to the OP. You say you are using coaxial cables - I hope you mean RCA analogue cables? If so, you should use 6 and have the subwoofer one connected also to your receiver. You will then need to set the audio settings to PCM so that the BD player decodes each channel and then sends it to the receiver to output. Your receiver should say LPCM and if you click audio on your S550 remote, a new soundtrack will appear, (eg, English 1 Dolby 2.0, English 2 DTS HD Master Audio, French 1 etc.,). You can use this to check the difference in sound.

Im pleased to hear that the difference in audio is so clear as ive been wanting to change the audio part of the system for a while anyway but that will make it all the more worthwhile.

Gerrardasnails:

Back to the OP. You say you are using coaxial cables - I hope you mean RCA analogue cables? If so, you should use 6 and have the subwoofer one connected also to your receiver. You will then need to set the audio settings to PCM so that the BD player decodes each channel and then sends it to the receiver to output. Your receiver should say LPCM

Really? If you're using multi-channel analogue outputs? I was under the impression LPCM was a digital format and would normally be passed through the HDMI lead if one wasn't bitstreaming?

"Gerrardasnails" - that reminds me, he was injured last night wasn't he? I'll have to take him out of my fantasy team...