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Thanks Matt, I live in London but my time for shopping is limmited I had hoped to do most of my shopping online.  I do understand what your saying though about hands on experince with the equpment so may take a day off to have a look. 

If I'm honest DACs etc confuse me I know what it does but my brain does start to go into meltdown slightly.  I will look into what you mentioned in your post.  As for the PC/Mac I have a Mac Mini with a large HDD so would be delgihted if that could be worked into the system some how.

Sorry for butting in to your reply to Matt........Hifi is such a subjective experience (much like Art or Fashion), which means that going and listening for yourself is absolutely crucial, especially if you are fairly new to it all and spending a fair amount of money.

A good dealer will take you through the variety of options open to you, much like Chebby's suggestion for example......and incorporating your Mac Mini into the system is a good idea.

Every week  you get someone on here, who has bought a "pick and mix" of  5* reviewed components "cheap" on line, and doesn't like the way it sounds.

Apologies if I'm coming across as patronizing, but I'm trying not to be......but the importance not buying "blind" is something that I feel is worth highlighting.

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Hi mate, I understand you may be busy, but please, if you are going to spend around £1000 on a cd player please go to local store and audition some kit, your budget will offer you a huge choice, so please make time to make sure you get whats right for you, sure pick the top players eg arcam rotel nad, naim, audiolab ect.... hope this helps

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what music do you like another factor in you choice of kit,

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As for the PC/Mac I have a Mac Mini with a large HDD so would be delgihted if that could be worked into the system some how.

Thanks again for your time.

That's what I use, but obviously the limitation is that I don't have Blu-Ray. I have considered adding the 751BD myself, as it seems to do all that I need, but the OPPO has an HDMI in that could be useful for connecting up to your Mac mini, so may be a more complete solution.

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Shilling again, Overdose, they haven't even been released, no-one has heard them, no reviews, no comparisons, plus they need a preamp! you really are not helping anyone here.

Apologies for the outburst, Susie, but  welcome, and, yes, a CD/SACD/Blu-Ray player is a good place to start. I'd look at one of the Sony models, which play all formats and sound good, use one myself. You'll need an amplifier too - NAD would be my choice here. The rest you should spend on speakers, something like the Boston Acoustics A25 or 26, the Dali Zensors or the Q Acoustics. That'll give you a good base system which sounds good and upon which you can build.

If you want to save, then I'd hang fire on the speakers and look at something like Neat, Spendor, or Dynaudio. You should audition speakers, though, to give you an idea how they sound, what the differences are, and what the extra money gives you.

 

No Need to apologize Lemon and thank you. Smile

 

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Speakers?  That really depends on the size of room, effects of furnishings, your music, how loud you like to play it and whether you like their looks.  So I only suggest a budget for speakers.

Plus how they gel with the amp, pretty sure thats just an oversight by you Chebby.

@Susie. Do you like to kick back and chill . Blast it out and boogie , or a bit of both. See where I'm coming from here ?. 

Lots of brain food coming your way. 

Find the ruddy time and go to a dealer please. We read far too often cries for 'help 'ive lashed up' on this forum.

My Boyfriend and I are very much "sit back and chill" people.  We like "Classical"  music if that makes a difference to recomendations I'm not sure.  We have a small room where our current sound system lives.it's roughly 12ft x 12ft and I would think this is any new system would go.

 

I run my own digtal media bussiness and we are currently working 6 days a week so time is far from abundant.  Having said that I will heed your advice and make time to go test out gear I am in no rush.

 

I like my headphones and I got a new pair for my Birthday a few days ago.  I haven't been able to read reviews on them yet (Sennheiser HD 800s) but am told they are "high-end" headphones would I be able to put off buying speakers for the moment and use these instead?  We only ever use speakers when we're listening together which is a rare event these days so less imporant (even though they are imporant).

 

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As you live in London you could go to Bartletts in Islington, they have a good range inc. ADM 9RSSs, Tannoy, Dynaudio speakers, you need to book a demo, best to go for 1-1.5 hours. They had Marantz Pearl Lite CD and amps not sure if still in stock, if you look at their website you will see whats in stock. £1,000 per item is quite a heafty budget, not sure you need to spend that much.

 

Thanks I'll be sure to check those out.  As for my budget if I don't end up spending that amount that's great however if I have to that is the limit I have set for myself it allows me to have money left for other things I do quite well. Sorry if I sound like a ***** I don't mean it that way just letting you know I can afford it and I'm not doing anything becuase I think I need to spend that amount I just can if need be. 

 

Thanks again all you guys are very kind.  :cheers:

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Susie wrote:

As for the PC/Mac I have a Mac Mini with a large HDD so would be delgihted if that could be worked into the system some how.

Thanks again for your time.

That's what I use, but obviously the limitation is that I don't have Blu-Ray. I have considered adding the 751BD myself, as it seems to do all that I need, but the OPPO has an HDMI in that could be useful for connecting up to your Mac mini, so may be a more complete solution.

We have a Blu-ray drive for our Mac mini.  Our Mac mini is older so it still has the slot for a optical drive which we swapped from DVD to Blu-ray.  We also have several external drives we use for work  they are quite cheap if your interested in adding Blu-ray to your Mac mini.  The only thing is Mac OS X doesn't suppourt Blu-ray out of the box so third party software is needed.

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Susie wrote:

Thanks Matt, I live in London but my time for shopping is limmited I had hoped to do most of my shopping online.  I do understand what your saying though about hands on experince with the equpment so may take a day off to have a look. 

If I'm honest DACs etc confuse me I know what it does but my brain does start to go into meltdown slightly.  I will look into what you mentioned in your post.  As for the PC/Mac I have a Mac Mini with a large HDD so would be delgihted if that could be worked into the system some how.

Sorry for butting in to your reply to Matt........Hifi is such a subjective experience (much like Art or Fashion), which means that going and listening for yourself is absolutely crucial, especially if you are fairly new to it all and spending a fair amount of money.

A good dealer will take you through the variety of options open to you, much like Chebby's suggestion for example......and incorporating your Mac Mini into the system is a good idea.

Every week  you get someone on here, who has bought a "pick and mix" of  5* reviewed components "cheap" on line, and doesn't like the way it sounds.

Apologies if I'm coming across as patronizing, but I'm trying not to be......but the importance not buying "blind" is something that I feel is worth highlighting.

Don't be sorry I'm well aware that I know nothing and without your help would could end up spending a vast amount of money without getting the results to match my expectations.  I will shop around when I have an idea of what I'm going to buy and post back here before I decide to buy anything.  Your being honest and I appreciate that not patronizing at all.

 

I apologize about my spelling etc I'm on my iPad and should be working at the moment.  :doh:

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We have a Blu-ray drive for our Mac mini.  Our Mac mini is older so it still has the slot for a optical drive which we swapped from DVD to Blu-ray.  We also have several external drives we use for work  they are quite cheap if your interested in adding Blu-ray to your Mac mini.  The only thing is Mac OS X doesn't suppourt Blu-ray out of the box so third party software is needed.

Thanks for the advice, I'll definitely look into it.

If that's the case then, I'd probably look no further than the ADM9RS speakers, no further equipment neccessary, although a dedicated universal/Blu-Ray player might be more convenient for direct disc playback, particularly if you need SACD.

Your headphones are highly regarded and would take some beating by any speaker, so you could quite easily leave it there, although you may benefit from a headphone amplifier, as the impedence of the headphones would be a little too high for a portable device and Mac mini to drive to higher volumes. They might sound a little quiet.

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Funny how one word gives the game away, isn't it, guys?

Give it a rest, go back to your speakerette forum and stop trying to hijack the biggest HiFi forum in the UK. I presume you're being well rewarded for this devious nonsense.

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Funny how one word gives the game away, isn't it, guys?

Give it a rest, go back to your speakerette forum and stop trying to hijack the biggest HiFi forum in the UK. I presume you're being well rewarded for this devious nonsense.

Was this directed at me?  :O

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I like my headphones and I got a new pair for my Birthday a few days ago.  I haven't been able to read reviews on them yet (Sennheiser HD 800s) but am told they are "high-end" headphones would I be able to put off buying speakers for the moment and use these instead?  We only ever use speakers when we're listening together which is a rare event these days so less imporant (even though they are imporant).

Susie,

Those are exceptionally good headphones. To get the most out of them, you need an amp with a decent headphone stage in it. I'll go back to my earlier recommendation: a good DAC with headphone stage will give you a lot of pleasure now and the possibility to expand your system in the future.

I recently borrowed the Naim DAC V-1 (£1250) from my local dealer in West London. It has an amazing headphone amp. All you'd need is a basic Blu-ray player, a digital interconnect cable (nothing fancy), and you're good to go. The Audiolab MDAC (£699) that I recommended earlier is also excellent for headphones.

When the time comes, you could add a power amp (e.g. the Naim NAP 100 at £650 or the Audiolab M-PWR at £499). One advantage of these Naim and Audiolab models is that the boxes are small.

:cheers:

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My Boyfriend and I are very much "sit back and chill" people.  We like "Classical"  music if that makes a difference to recomendations I'm not sure. We have a small room where our current sound system lives.it's roughly 12ft x 12ft and I would think this is any new system would go.

If you like classical music, these are brands that I would look out for:

Source

Streamer from Linn or Naim

Amps

- Arcam

- Rega

- Sugden

- Creek

- Croft

- Electrocompaniet

- Audio Analogue

- Unison Research Unico

- Pathos

- Musical Fidelity

Speakers

- Spendor

- Harbeth

- Kef R Series / LS50

- Sonus Faber Venere / Toy

- Epos

- Proac

- Vienna Acoustics

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Yes music and room size do make a difference. With that room size I would probably stick to standmounts. Also some speakers need some space so that will cut down your choice.

Actually I would say the speakers will make the most difference to the sound, so it maybe best to choose those first, listen to various different ones to find which you like best. Don't feel obliged to buy anything at the demo, just say you need to think about it.

For your room I would try KEF R100s (£600) for starters. The Tannoy Precision 6.1 (£900) were pretty good and may suit your music. Amps I would try Arcam A19 and Creek 50A (about £650/£700). If you go to Bartletts you can try the ADMs 9RSSs, these have the amps and dac inside the speakers and cost £1,400, so you just need to choose a source.

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Susie

Hello and welcome to the forum. You mention bluray and DVD but don't say whether you want to consider surround sound (many classical titles are appearing on bluray in HD surround format, so this may be of interest to you).

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

Funny how one word gives the game away, isn't it, guys?

Give it a rest, go back to your speakerette forum and stop trying to hijack the biggest HiFi forum in the UK. I presume you're being well rewarded for this devious nonsense.

Was this directed at me?  :O

No Suzie... Hope it's not too late, I believe it was directed at overdose!

No more to be added by me... mainly all good advice.

Good luck and keep us posted.

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