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HUH??? It's dog..

Well I heard him say cat..

No you didn't..

Yes I did, I like cats and I heard him say cat..

 

 

Elvis said dog, we all know that, the song is called Hound Dog.

Right, you've got a digital recording of the song, it might be on a CD, or on your PC, or on a USB stick, etc etc. Whatever it's on is irrelevent, everytime you play the recording you hear Elvis say dog, not cat.

If it's streamed, you hear dog, if it's played on a CDP, you hear dog, you hear dog no matter what it's played back on.

Dog, dog dog dog dog dog, doggy, woof woof.

You can't hear cat because he doesn't say cat, and within that digital data are exact instructions that instruct that dog is what's heard.

If you use a different digital cable, you still hear dog, if you use a streamer that cost £317m and was jointly designed by Russ Andrews and NASA, you still hear dog.

If you live for 4 billion years and playback that recording 100 times a day, you'll still hear dog, you won't ever hear cat, never ever ever ever ever.

So why would you hear less bass? Why would you hear more bass? Why would you hear tighter bass? Why would you hear anything different?

You can't, it is not possible, in the digital domain, nothing ever changes, dog is dog and cat is cat, and that's that  Smile

To say you've heard anything different on that recording on the same system, is to say you heard Elvis sing hound cat.

It really is, there can never be differences in the digital domain, it works 100% and you hear what's on the recording every single time.

You can change speakers and hear more bass, or change DACS and perhaps hear less bass, you can change your listening position and hear something different, but all other things being equal, changing a digital cable or means of digital transport will make no difference whatsoever.

Unless you can hear the king say hound cat  Tongue

 

 


 


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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

He's cracked!!!!

What if I replace my 'digital' cable with an analogue one? Smile

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

maxflinn wrote:

Elvis said dog, we all know that, the song is called Hound Dog.

......thay's only because PP ate the cat!

Anyway, it's not what he said, but the way he said it.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

maxflinn wrote:
Dog, dog dog dog dog dog, doggy, woof woof.

That didn't work very well - as an example of the immutability of the digital signal - did it?

It got all confused at the end. 

According to you, Elvis would have been singing...

"hound Dog"

"hound dog dog dog dog dog"

"hound doggy"

and even

"hound woof woof".

I don't want your cables thanks very much.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

Have you played digital chinese whispers?

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

I have just listened and Elvis actually seems to be singing "hown dawg uh..." or "hownn dorg er..." depending on how you interpret the accent.

He seemed to lengthen the 'n' and only pronounces the 'd' at the beginning of dog (not the one at the end of hound) and always has an 'uh' (or 'er') sound at the end of dog.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

Yep, it is fefinately "hown dawg uh..." on my system...must be down to the cheap 75 omm cable.

I'm just away to check it out on me vinyl!!

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

Similar to the Small Faces 'Lazy Sunday' where  "laaayzee Sundee afternoon ah!" always has the "ah!" on the end of 'afternoon'.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

Yes, the original recording is the original recording, nothing will change that (except degradation, depending on recording format). But from that point on (before it is mastered to individual retail formats) it is subject to change at varying points from mastering to end result.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

chebby wrote:

Similar to the Small Faces 'Lazy Sunday' where  "laaayzee Sundee afternoon ah!" always has the "ah!" on the end of 'afternoon'.

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

Alears wrote:

He's cracked!!!!

What if I replace my 'digital' cable with an analogue one? Smile

 

You get Buddy Holly.   Smile

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Oh dear.  Oh dear oh dear.  Crying

Of course a cable can't change the words.  That is ridiculous.  The ability of a cable to affect the tonal balance of sound has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it can change words.  I completely fail to see what this thread can achieve given that the whole premise is ridiculous.

I must still be asleep.  I must have slept all the way here on the train, walked to the shop in my sleep and I must be sat here at my desk asleep, because the only way to explain this is that it is some kind of surreal dream.   banging head against wall

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

matthewpiano wrote:

I must still be asleep.  I must have slept all the way here on the train, walked to the shop in my sleep and I must be sat here at my desk asleep, because the only way to explain this is that it is some kind of surreal dream.   banging head against wall

Nope. It's just Max being Max.....and no amount of different cables will change that!

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

shame on you mostly you hear 01100100 01101111 01100111 , but occasionally you might hear 01100010 01101111 01100111.

 

 

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

matthewpiano wrote:

Oh dear.  Oh dear oh dear.  Crying

Of course a cable can't change the words.  That is ridiculous.  The ability of a cable to affect the tonal balance of sound has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not it can change words.  I completely fail to see what this thread can achieve given that the whole premise is ridiculous.

I must still be asleep.  I must have slept all the way here on the train, walked to the shop in my sleep and I must be sat here at my desk asleep, because the only way to explain this is that it is some kind of surreal dream.   banging head against wall

Good morning Mathew, the thread is about digital data not analogue cables, and digital data does not have any relationship with tonal balance. If you swap one digital cable for another, or one digital streamer for another, then you're as likely to hear Elvis say cat, as you are to hear any variation in tonal balance, or in fact any change whatsoever to the sound, once everything else remains the same, including whatever DAC is being used.

I hope that's cleared things up a little for you  Smile

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RE: You ain't nothing but a hound cat.

maxflinn wrote:

.. and digital data does not have any relationship with tonal balance ...

So what information do you think is carried by that digital signal that is supposed to be a replica of Elvis then?

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