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YAMAHA A-S500 or PIONEER A30 ?

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antskip wrote:

NAD C326BEE has a big sound with substantial bass. But if you can, perhaps consider its slightly more expensive sister, the NAD C356BEE, as it is noticeably more powerful.

 

Yes but that is £600. Think you are better off buying the Pioneer A50 for £380 or A30 for £175. Unless you are talking about used amps?

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hi

my problem still the same : A amp which could move correctly my 32cm boomers also when the volume isn't high. Now i think the A30 is not strong enough. But i read a lot of forums and the point of view are different and the prices grow. I want to stay under 500 euros and on my actual list we can find YAMAHA A-S500 & A-S700, NAD C326BEE and a little more expensive PIONEER A50. 

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forget yamaha you wont get the amount and quality of bass you want.Pio A50

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Why not Atoll? They make stonking amps, and pretty cheap from what I remember. Plus they're made in France.

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Why isnt marantz pm6004 in contention or rotel for that matter.

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Why isnt marantz pm6004 in contention or rotel for that matter.

 

6004 does not have enough power seen lots of complaints about it.

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many people tell me that MARANTZ is not made to listen hard-rock and heavy metal, punch is not its first quality.

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The Rotel RA10, for example has pre out so you can connect to a power amp, I guess if you need more power - such as RB-1562 or RB-1572. . Cambridge Audio is another good company - worth checking out its amps.

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Try a Demo with the amps. The Yammy might surprise you.

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matthewpiano wrote:

Denon PMA720AE.  It is a stunning amp.  2 in our family and they both sound fantastic across a wide range of music.

 

my mate is interested in this one to replace his faulty one, the denon has been reduced in price significantly . How would you describe the sound compared to say Marantz or Nad,  According to WHF review it does not do subtle !     

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matthewpiano wrote:

Denon PMA720AE.  It is a stunning amp.  2 in our family and they both sound fantastic across a wide range of music.

 

my mate is interested in this one to replace his faulty one, the denon has been reduced in price significantly . How would you describe the sound compared to say Marantz or Nad,  According to WHF review it does not do subtle !     

 Right OK     I have heard this amp now a few times at my mates house, its availabe for £179 now,     WHF are talking the **** only giving it four stars, it sounds superb, it should have 5 stars and gold ones at that at this price !, easliy competes with my marantz pm7001   and yes, it can do laid back imo, with the right match

 

it really does make me think that retaliers adjust their prices based on star ratings,  . If this had 5 star rating no doubt the price would not have dropped as much,  funny how the 5 star rated yamaha as 500 is 100 pounds more than this amp and sound is not better than the denon at all  imo, but hey its got 5 stars so it will sell, lets keep the price higher.....maybe I am cynical

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Sorry I missed your questions.  I agree with you completely.  I've heard pretty much all of the sub £500 amps out there and IMO the Denon deserves 5 stars at its original price of £350.  At £179-£200 (today's prices) it is an absolute bargain. 

I find it to be a very subtle amp when required.  For a while I had this and a NAD C326BEE, and the Denon is just so much more versatile.  Yes, it can really attack with a full orchestra or a bit of Metallica (as it should do), but play a bit of Heidi Talbot or Bella Hardy on it and it sounds gorgeous, displaying all the inflections and subtleties in the music.

Sometimes, when I'm away from home, I catch myself considering what I could upgrade it to.  Then I come home and listen to some music and I realise it would take one hell of an upgrade to move me away from this amp.

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electricman wrote:

i saw the NAD C326BEE doesn't have loudness command, do you think that's a real default when someone like me enjoy big sound ?

At low vol, say under h8:30, with the Nads you can't get low big bass as you can  with Denon, Marantz or Pioneer with activated loudness ; tested at home and in shop...

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The volume control is not a ver good indication of loudness, some amps. go loud quickly and then sound poor after 12 oclock others increase the volume slowly. 

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Sorry I missed your questions.  I agree with you completely.  I've heard pretty much all of the sub £500 amps out there and IMO the Denon deserves 5 stars at its original price of £350.  At £179-£200 (today's prices) it is an absolute bargain. 

I find it to be a very subtle amp when required.  For a while I had this and a NAD C326BEE, and the Denon is just so much more versatile.  Yes, it can really attack with a full orchestra or a bit of Metallica (as it should do), but play a bit of Heidi Talbot or Bella Hardy on it and it sounds gorgeous, displaying all the inflections and subtleties in the music.

Sometimes, when I'm away from home, I catch myself considering what I could upgrade it to.  Then I come home and listen to some music and I realise it would take one hell of an upgrade to move me away from this amp.

 

Could not agree more,  BTW anyone looking at a sub £200 brand new amp would be very foolish not to seriously consider this superb little Denon , grab one before they  put the price back up is what I say.....  wonder how it compares with the pioneer A30