right ok i see, i just had a look at the airport express seems decent however does it support the new ipod touch 5th gen ?
yh i usually download files that are 192bps or more so thats fine.
urm nothing is a problem really but basically my room is being done up i.e new bed layout etc and just thought while im at it i would upgrade from my old system which is old aesthetically aswell, so its just a general improvement to the whole room.
iPod 5 is no problem but you need a network to set up the AEX, is that ok?
How important is the style/bling factor? Realistically all your budget is going to get you is modern version of what you already have, maybe some improvements but hardly night and day.
I guess what I am asking is, how important is the sound compared to the style factor, bling or something basic and minimalist that actually performs?
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
yes thats no problem, i have a wireless router already setup in the house so it can connect to that. I can then operate and play music off my ipod touch wirelessly if im correct?
so will the airport express alone imporve the sound of my current system, which is connected via an aux cable directly into the amp?
sound is more important than style tbh. As such im thinking of a system such as this:
Marantz pm7001ki or 7200ki
Monitor audio GR10 speakers
Ipod touch as the source.
Im pretty sure that system would be a large imporvement over what i have currently no?
Cool, enjoy ur tunes.
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That's rather more than the budget you mentioned but buying used you might get lucky.
Not remotely the kind of equipment I would consider for my own use so nothing to say on what it will sound like, just see if you can get to try it out before spending the money.
Set up is still an issue though, speaker stand particularly. Take some advice from MA users.
In this setup you can set up the Touch/AEX to move data losslessly, in iTunes that is simply a matter of turning off the processors and EQ and running the volume at max, use the amp to adjust volume.
Yh I'm planning on purchasing second hand so should get it all within my budget.
As for the speakers they will be placed on stands on the wall so that will be proper placement for them.
U say adjusting settings is iTunes , does that mean I will have to use my computer in this setup? I only hav iTunes on my computer u see.
Also will the airport express change the sound for the better ? As opposed to using an aux cable?
Your Touch should be running the iOS version of iTunes unless you have deliberately chosen to install and use another player so you do not need to use your computer other than to sync music libraries etc.
Using Airplay does require some extra processing, it accesses the digital signal before it gets to the normal analogue out of the Touch and 'packages' it for transmission via Airplay. The AEX 'unpacks' the data and gives you the option of using the onboard dac to give you analogue out or an optical digital out that can be 'bit perfect' if set up correctly.
Some people think that transmission over Airplay degrades the sound, if it does I find it of no consequence and in your case the use of lossy MP3 files is already a more significant compromise. In short don't worry about it, if you do, use the dock. Either way should sound better than using the existing able from the headphone out.
ok kl, il connect the airport express through rca interconnects. This seems to be the first upgrade I need to make and then I shall see how this changes the sound, then next step will be the amp.
Read this before you start to make any investments (the quality of your iPod is much better than other people say!):
iPhone 5 Audio Quality Measurements from www.kenrockwell.com
or this one:
Apple iPod portable music player Measurements | Stereophile.com
Airport Express (still analog), Artephonos Energa (power-tube-amp), Peitho 303 (speakers). Panasonic TX-P42G30 (tv).
thanks for the links, the first article suggests that listening directly from the ipod is better than using a dac as would be the case with the airport express. So it seems there is varying reviews putting me in a dilemma :/.
I can imagine, as i also do doubt about all the expensive DAC's. I tried a DAC-magic against the Airport Express, and a 22 year old Meridian CD-player, which was the best at that time. I could hear no difference, in my setup. You should do a blind test to convince yourself!
Airplay is a transmission protocol that works in the digital domain. Therefore you need a dac in the AEX, which it has, or further down the line if you want more flexibility.
I use an AEX connected via an optical cable to a Fiio dac, then via phono leads to my active speakers. In this case the dac is primarily for convenience and flexibility, not a performance upgrade.
You are running mid quality MP3s into a budget playback system, any of these options will be fine.
I'm not sure you are going to get any improvement at all if your tunes are such a low bitrate.
I use Spotify Premium (320) streamed through my CDP's DAC and the difference between that and a CD is huge. The CD is way way better, I've done AB tests on quite a few tunes.
Unison Research CDE, Leema Tucana 2, Kudos C2 and some cables.
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[quote=JoelSim]I'm not sure you are going to get any improvement at all if your tunes are such a low bitrate. I use Spotify Premium (320) streamed through my CDP's DAC and the difference between that and a CD is huge. The CD is way way better, I've done AB tests on quite a few tunes.[/quote
The diference in quality between Spotify premium and red book is not huge, though I have heard differences many times and little or no differences many more.
The issue appears to be the way the signals are handled, if you go out of your way to compare like for like the differences in terms of the music are very small.
For example a flac, ripped to an iPad sounds virtually identical to the Ogg Vorbis file of the same version of the album downloaded and played offline from the iPad's memory, in this case the source and the data handling is exactly the same, only the files are different.
Right ok so the aex may not necessarily improve the sound ?. My other option is to get a dedicated dac. Say a musical fidelity m1 dac or a3 dac. Would this be better than buying the aex ? I'm slightly confused as to the purpose of the aex if it doesn't improve the sound quality.
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