Just move this thread to accessories where rubbish cable conversations can be had. Thanks
Here is the view of George Cardas: http://www.cardas.com/insights_break_in.php
Thanks for the link Cno.
That is quite possibly the best example of 'scientific sounding mumbo jumbo' that I've ever seen. Not only do the cables need burning in but according to Cadas even the room needs burning in.
As a rule, companies set up audition rooms at high end audio shows a couple of days ahead of time to let them break in. The first day the sound is usually bad and it is very stressful. The last day sounds great. Mechanical stress in speaker cables, speaker cabinets, even the walls of the room, must be relaxed in order for the system to sound its best.
Now I believe in voodoo magic!
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Perhaps the healthiest way to burn walls in?
I believe that Puffa Fish poison (Tetrodotoxin) creates the appearance of death rather than Voodoo Magic......this explanation didn't appear till the 80s..........so mock ye not BB!
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Do you agree with Mr Cardas that walls benefit from breaking in Cno?
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I need to relax to be at my best, so why not a wall!
And your answer to the question is?
Clue: he isn't actually a religious prophet, you are allowed to say he's talking nonsense.
It might be.....who knows.....certainly not me.
I played a musical instrument, which sounded better when it was warmed up, and I was relaxed.
What is your view on the the blind test that Hi-Fi+ conducted, and was linked to earlier?
This thread is amazing. No, no irony.
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It needs to be 99.999% pure Irony to make good cables.
I must have been on my hols when that was linked to. I'm sure any obfuscating response of mine to it couldn't be any worse than your two just now. And I did so well for about four days staying off these threads....
Masticate (or obfuscate) on this: http://www.nordost.com/default/pdf/hifiplus_issue34.pdf
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Great article on blind listening tests CnoEvil, thanks for posting.
Now, I better start saving for the Valhalla ...
I'm afraid that's not actually true.
I admit that I'm not an expert and that my knowledge of electronics is limited. However I do have an understanding of the basic principals of electronics which is sufficient enough for me to be able to see that some of the things that Cardas says are just plain wrong.
I selectively quoted the bit where Cardas says "the walls of the room, must be relaxed in order for the system to sound its best" because that's such an utterly ridiculous statement it's actually funny.
Cardas also says that a cable holds a bit of residual charge and it takes several days for this charge to dissipate before it will sound any good.
Yep, ok fair enough. But what do you think happens when you play music? The amplifier introduces an alternating current that goes through the cable. But according to Carda's logic you have to wait for any residual charge to dissipate before the cable will sound any good. This would mean that every time you put a current through the cable by listening to music you would then have to wait for another several days for the cable to dissipate any residual charge before it sounded any good again.
Maybe I'm missing something here but that just doesn't seem to make any sense.
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The Luftwaffe was the last agency that 'relaxed' any stresses/strains in our walls - about 70 years ago - when one of their bombs fell some 200 yards away (that was the closest one, there were many others of course).
It also 'settled' a whole load of loose bits of mortar on the inside of the cavity walls that cost a small fortune to have removed when we first moved in 26 years ago. (The stuff was making damp 'bridges' where it settled at the bottom of the cavities.)
If you know of any hi-fi that can replicate the effects of a WW2 bomb dropped 200 yds away, then I wouldn't want to be in the same room (!) no matter how relaxed the walls are.
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