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Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

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There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.

I suppose you have the sales figures to hand? or are you just making it up?

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

Not sure about sales in UK but they certainly don't seem very common, I would like to hear them but no dealers seem to stock them in Essex.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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Not sure about sales in UK but they certainly don't seem very common, I would like to hear them but no dealers seem to stock them in Essex.

NameDavid WrenCompanyRadlett AudioAddress(By appointment)WimbishEssexCB10 2UZPhone01799 599080Fax Emailradlettaudio@hotmail.co.ukWeb sitewww.radlettaudio.co.uk

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.

Looks like they only have about 6 dealers in England.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

I read that a lot of Naim owners use Harbeth speakers, very good pairing it seems.

I may audition some if ever I decide to change my Spendors................

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

BigH wrote:

Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.

 

Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).

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BenLaw wrote:

BigH wrote:

Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.

 

Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).

 

Maybe but what cd player Naim or Rega? No Marantz, Musical Fid, Audiolab, Arcam etc.

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BigH wrote:

Not sure about sales in UK but they certainly don't seem very common, I would like to hear them but no dealers seem to stock them in Essex.

Radlett Audio near Safron Waldon are the closest to Essex for Harbeth speakers, I was only talking to Dave Wren the proprietor a couple of weeks ago about them.

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BigH wrote:

BenLaw wrote:

BigH wrote:

Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.

 

Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).

 

Maybe but what cd player Naim or Rega? No Marantz, Musical Fid, Audiolab, Arcam etc.

You are moving into a different league and thinking and presentation, with Harbeth, for starters its home audition, not mass market, there will be an element of sophistication, all very laid back way of doing things.  Mass market and marketing, does not fit well in this sanario.

 

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

CJSF wrote:

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BenLaw wrote:

BigH wrote:

Thanks. Not your normal sort of dealer, very limited range of gear.

 

Depends what you call 'normal'. They support 20 manufacturers and they're not the commonest but they're very good and I bet you could set up some cracking combos and make some good comparisons (ATC v PMC v Harbeth would be fun).

 

Maybe but what cd player Naim or Rega? No Marantz, Musical Fid, Audiolab, Arcam etc.

You are moving into a different league and thinking and presentation, with Harbeth, for starters its home audition, not mass market, there will be an element of sophistication, all very laid back way of doing things.  Mass market and marketing, does not fit well in this sanario.

 

 

Thats what we are saying. 

 

But makes it difficult to compare different makes. Having just done 2 rather unsatisfactory auditions I have come to the conclusion that home demos are the only way to really test gear.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

pauln wrote:

plastic penguin wrote:

altruistic.lemon wrote:

relocated wrote:

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

puzzled

There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.

I suppose you have the sales figures to hand? or are you just making it up?

 

What on earth has this comment to do with no 'golden eared' individual taking up the challenge to win a pair of Harbeth speakers.

I'm surprised a WHF reviewer didn't win the pair     Shock        and then they could have reviewed them for their readers.  Strange that, reviewers that can differentiate between usb and hdmi cables     shame on you      but couldn't tell the difference between amplifiers to win speakers.       puzzled

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

Can someone share experience with Harbeth speakers? Harbeth vs others?

i guess they are not chosen for impressive soundstage and imaging? puzzled

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

Found this earlier post: http://www.whathifi.com/forum/hi-fi/speaker-shoot-out-harbeth-p3esr-vs-proac-tablette-anniversary

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

I used to own a pair of Harbeth Compact 7es3's.

What people described as "natural" came across to me as loose, dark, and rolled-off. In the end, we parted ways, because it did not sound like real music to me. Important to note that I've tried many positioning, cabling, amplications, and sources to overcome the shortcomings.

If you are looking for a pair of inoffensive monitors that will wow you with beautiful cabinetry and old-school styling, these are it. Ultimately, I decided their sound is not worth the money.

Among the brands that I've recently auditioned, Proac just seems to be in a different league. I couldn't understand the hype around KEF LS50 or PMC Twenty Series as they were compromised in one way or another.

I listen to mostly classical (orchestral, chamber, solo) and jazz.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

batonwielder wrote:

I used to own a pair of Harbeth Compact 7es3's.

What people described as "natural" came across to me as loose, dark, and rolled-off. In the end, we parted ways, because it did not sound like real music to me. Important to note that I've tried many positioning, cabling, amplications, and sources to overcome the shortcomings.

If you are looking for a pair of inoffensive monitors that will wow you with beautiful cabinetry and old-school styling, these are it. Ultimately, I decided their sound is not worth the money.

Among the brands that I've recently auditioned, Proac just seems to be in a different league. I couldn't understand the hype around KEF LS50 or PMC Twenty Series as they were compromised in one way or another.

I listen to mostly classical (orchestral, chamber, solo) and jazz.

When assessing an alternative, I think it is absolutely vital to hear the opposing POV, so I think your thoughts are crucially important to bring perspective to the argument.

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