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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

Simple.  Its not popular Laughing

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

BigH wrote:

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

MF Dacs here: http://www.whathifi.com/search/apachesolr_search/?filters=tid%3A1182%20type%3Ahcmproduct%20tid%3A674&solrsort=created%20desc

MF amps: http://www.whathifi.com/review/musical-fidelity-x-t100-triple-x-psu and http://www.whathifi.com/review/musical-fidelity-x-ray-v8-x-dac-v8

Creek: http://www.whathifi.com/creek

Should also find Audiolab amp 8200, which received 4 stars.

They can only test if a manufacturer gives them a test example.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

They sell to a mostly international clientele (they won't be found in many UK hi-fi outlets) and I doubt they'd need a WHF? review.

The manufacturer needs to send a review sample to get a review. I assume Harbeth haven't sent any.

Harbeth speakers have been reviewed elsewhere and can be found online if you look. (Stereophile for sure.)

 

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

Mac

 

Sorry I only came across the more expensive ones like the Harbeth p3esr. Yes would like to see a review or 2 but some man. don't like to send their gear in.

As for balance I would like to see more £500-£1,000 int. amps, why every Cyrus one but no Audiolab, No MF, hear there is a Creek soon, Arcam has just been reviewed. 

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

puzzled

The challenge stopped a while ago. There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

altruistic.lemon wrote:

relocated wrote:

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

puzzled

There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

plastic penguin wrote:

altruistic.lemon wrote:

relocated wrote:

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

puzzled

There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.

How do you know this PP? Extremely popular in the far east and the States.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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BigH wrote:

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

Mac

 

Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

krolikgena wrote:

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BigH wrote:

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

Mac

 

Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.

Sorry, I disagree, Naim is a mass marketed, all be it pretty high end, product that is widely available on the high street.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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krolikgena wrote:

Macspur wrote:

BigH wrote:

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

Mac

 

Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.

Sorry, I disagree, Naim is a widely available highly marketed product on a par with Cyrus.

Mac

 

Naim were a niche product before all this digital/streamig thing.. they always stood apart from the rest of the hi-fi world with it's own army of true fans. all this Flat Earth, PraT.. etc. once u mention that u have a naim people always react the same way. they are club by it's own margin. sure, they have to compete with others in order to survive in modern times so they appeal for the masses with tons of more affordable and easy solutions.

I just don't get why it's easier for Harbeth send a samples to 6moons and Stereophile, rather than to WHF or Techradar. All in all this is as British looking and sounding speakers as you can get. i don't believe that they are more popular overseas than in UK.

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

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altruistic.lemon wrote:

relocated wrote:

I wonder if it could have anything to do with the recent [ongoing] challenge laid down by the owner of Harbeth?  

The one that challenges the notion that amplifiers differ to such an extent that they are clearly audible.  Prize for the challenge is a rather nice pair of speakers, I believe.  I think they remain unclaimed.

puzzled

There were no takers, which says a lot about the audiophile world.

No, it says alot about Harbeth's distribution and consequent lack of sales, allied to the current market.

What lack of sales? Why do you think that?

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RE: Why no Harbeth review on WHF?

krolikgena wrote:

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krolikgena wrote:

Macspur wrote:

BigH wrote:

There are some gaps in the WHF reviews,No Audiolab integrated amp., No MF, No Creek, lots of Cyrus. OK they can't test everything and the Harbeths are fairly expensive. Seem to rely mostly on manufacturers spending in gear to test, otherwise they have to buy and then sell which will cost more money.

Some good points there, but apart from the M40's Harbeth are pretty reasonably priced, certainly no more expensive than a lot of other of similar calabre.

WHF does tend to review what on the whole, appeals to the masses and Harbeth is more of a niche product...don't know what they're missing.

Mac

 

Naim is also a niche product, yet they seem to have a glowing reviews everywhere.

Sorry, I disagree, Naim is a widely available highly marketed product on a par with Cyrus.

Mac

 

Naim were a niche product before all this digital/streamig thing.. they always stood apart from the rest of the hi-fi world with it's own army of true fans. all this Flat Earth, PraT.. etc. once u mention that u have a naim people always react the same way. they are club by it's own margin. sure, they have to compete with others in order to survive in modern times so they appeal for the masses with tons of more affordable and easy solutions.

I just don't get why it's easier for Harbeth send a samples to 6moons and Stereophile, rather than to WHF or Techradar. All in all this is as British looking and sounding speakers as you can get. i don't believe that they are more popular overseas than in UK.

Don't take me the wrong way, I'm not knocking Naim.  I think they are a terrific Company producing stunning equipment for all levels of affordability and they may well have, like a lot of others, started out as a niche product, but they aren't now.

You may well be right about Harbeth's popularity in the UK, but from what I've read on their own forum and by talking to people, the impression is that they are far more popular abroad... I wish it weren't so, as they are a superb loudspeaker... think it may come down to aesthetics in the end.

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