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RE: When should actives be recommended?

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If ur statement is true why are AvI actives the least hifi item sold on ebay.. For some reason when people buy them, hardly sell...

....probably it's because Actives make up a tiny percentage of the hifi that's out there, being sold.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

They can be recommended when th eOP can afford them. This may mean pointing out to them that they have items in their setup that would be superfluous with an active setup and could be sold to help them to meet the cost. This depends, of course, on which actives are being recommended - do they contain a DAC, for example?

So, they can be recommended when they are, or could be made to be, within budget.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

I think actives should be recommended as an option, I for one like the idea of reducing the box count etc. The main issue is that there is still a limited choice of actives with wood veneers, or something folk would want in their living room.

 

I'm on a quest for some actives for my study, so the appearance is not really a concern. I've demo'd the ADM9 and I really liked some aspects of he sound, but I just wasn't sold overall. They would be at the limit of what I would want to spend, I'm hoping to demo some KEF X300a soon, along some other monitors from the pro side of things.

 

it would be great if more speaker manufacturers from the home audio end offered an affordable active option, one that would be finished liked thir passive speakers. Hopefully we can have much more choice in future so that people can do home demos to compare. Currently though, the bulk of choice for home audio is with passive speakers and I for one have heard some brilliant passive systems at an affordable price. 

 

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

CnoEvil wrote:

Native_bon wrote:

If ur statement is true why are AvI actives the least hifi item sold on ebay.. For some reason when people buy them, hardly sell...

....probably it's because Actives make up a tiny percentage of the hifi that's out there, being sold.

Even if it was a very small percentage being bought, it still does not account for much Resale all things being equal..?

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

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I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

 

And therefore why should anyone say 'don't recommend an active speaker'?

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I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

Is this relevant?  :roll:

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John Duncan wrote:
I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

Is this relevant?  :roll:

If you think that one should recommend a particular type of product (eg actives, passives, analogue, digital, class A, class D, whatever) simply because they are that type of product, irrespective of someone's functional requirements, lifestyle or budget, or how well a particular product performs, no.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

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Phileas wrote:

John Duncan wrote:
I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

Is this relevant?  :roll:

If you think that one should recommend a particular type of product (eg actives, passives, analogue, digital, class A, class D, whatever) simply because they are that type of product, irrespective of someone's functional requirements, lifestyle or budget, or how well a particular product performs, no.

 

As per my previous post, I think you're rather making the case *for* recommending an active speaker as a plausible alternative to other suggestions, save where something has been said specifically to exclude it as an option. 

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

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Phileas wrote:

John Duncan wrote:
I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

Is this relevant?  :roll:

If you think that one should recommend a particular type of product (eg actives, passives, analogue, digital, class A, class D, whatever) simply because they are that type of product, irrespective of someone's functional requirements, lifestyle or budget, or how well a particular product performs, no.

Ah, so you're agreeing with many of us that it's generally fine to recommend actives, just like any other speaker type? I.e. there's no particular reason not to recommend them?

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You both seem quite surprised by this idea...:roll:

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

In answer to the original poster; actives should (or rather, could) be mentioned at any time. A good rule of thumb would be if the person posting thought that the original poster would benefit from having active speakers recommended to them.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

John Duncan wrote:
I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

I stand to be corrected, but because of the variables involved, this statement seems pretty meaningless to me.

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Alec wrote:

John Duncan wrote:
I have yet to hear any piece of kit that, by dint of its design philosophy alone, makes it instantly recommendable over other products which do not follow that same philosophy.

I stand to be corrected, but because of the variables involved, this statement seems pretty meaningless to me.

Then I shall be happy to do so. I don't think anyone should recommend 'active' or 'passive' (for example). I think one should recommend 'suitable' and 'good', neither of which are exclusive to any camp.

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RE: When should actives be recommended?

atticus wrote:

In answer to the original poster; actives should (or rather, could) be mentioned at any time. A good rule of thumb would be if the person posting thought that the original poster would benefit from having active speakers recommended to them.

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