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RE: Marketing budgets

busb wrote:

lindsayt wrote:

busb wrote:
I'm going back far longer ago than streamers to all the damaging bull that some still believe (that the source is the most important part of any system) which is rubbish. My comment is far less fatuous than you think - I remember the times when Ivor T was spinning more bull than discs. I don't doubt that Linn have designed some great products since the LP12 - I have a long memory & sh*t sticks. I tend to support companies with smaller marketing budgets!

Vertical scale is in $millions.

 

Panasonic's UK marketing budget was £60 million in 2011.

 

Linn Products turnover in the year to June 2010 was £17 million.

 

My phone contract is expiring soon. Would you care to recommend an alternative to an an iPhone from a company with a significantly smaller marketing budget?. Marketing was not my main point but the campany's willingness to spread FUD was. Again, as for a potential TV replacement, you suggestion is who?

Maybe one or two Linn owners took my comments to heart - it was not an attack on them even iff some take adverse comments personally but on Linn as a company & other manufacturers whose selling techniques are or have been less than honourable IMO. My point is when it comes to HiFi & British HiF in particular, there are plenty of alternatives who sell more straightforwardly without resorting to spin.

As for being wound up after forty years - not really - I've only hit my boss, got thrown off a bus... So not really

 

Try this:  http://www.fairphone.com/#q1

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Fairphone looks interesting, but it's not been fully worked out.  Users have reported issues with the handset that should've been ironed out at the product test stage by the coupe of accounts I'd read.  Nice idea though so I hope they keep going and improve the product.

Linn's secret?  Not sure really.  They built high quality hifi, so what if the LP12 was a rebadged Ariston, plenty of examples out there where a product was taken and modified.  For years, the Japanese pretty much did that across their electronics industry. In the 60s, the Japanese footprint in the US black and white TV marketplace was tiny.  By the early 70s, they'd pretty much wiped the floor with US competitors and manufacturers.  They took the product, redesigned it and improved on it.  The market voted with its wallets.

So it went with Linn.  They've adapted to the 21st Century ahead of quite a few companies in the CE field, come up with their own DS Majik line and plugged it to hell.  Is it good?  No idea, but for the money asked, one would like to think so.  

And on the other hand, you could get an entire Linn system for less than the money you'd lash out for some of Crystal Cable's products - a set of their Absolute Dream interconnects will set you back about £13,000.  A USB cable from the same company's same line £9,000 and their matching speaker cable £29,000.  

Maybe somebody could tell me their secret instead?  

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RE: Marketing budgets

the record spot wrote:

Fairphone looks interesting, but it's not been fully worked out.  Users have reported issues with the handset that should've been ironed out at the product test stage by the coupe of accounts I'd read.  Nice idea though so I hope they keep going and improve the product.

Linn's secret?  Not sure really.  They built high quality hifi, so what if the LP12 was a rebadged Ariston, plenty of examples out there where a product was taken and modified.  For years, the Japanese pretty much did that across their electronics industry. In the 60s, the Japanese footprint in the US black and white TV marketplace was tiny.  By the early 70s, they'd pretty much wiped the floor with US competitors and manufacturers.  They took the product, redesigned it and improved on it.  The market voted with its wallets.

So it went with Linn.  They've adapted to the 21st Century ahead of quite a few companies in the CE field, come up with their own DS Majik line and plugged it to hell.  Is it good?  No idea, but for the money asked, one would like to think so.  

And on the other hand, you could get an entire Linn system for less than the money you'd lash out for some of Crystal Cable's products - a set of their Absolute Dream interconnects will set you back about £13,000.  A USB cable from the same company's same line £9,000 and their matching speaker cable £29,000.  

Maybe somebody could tell me their secret instead?  

Probably not high volume!

As for Fairphone, it does sound interesting but I hope it ends up more than just idealism. The closest equivalent in audio I can think of is class D amplification with swich mode PSU. Less energy used, far less copper & no X'over distortion. They are also lighter so cheaper to transport.

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RE: Marketing budgets

the record spot wrote:
...And on the other hand, you could get an entire Linn system for less than the money you'd lash out for some of Crystal Cable's products - a set of their Absolute Dream interconnects will set you back about £13,000.  A USB cable from the same company's same line £9,000 and their matching speaker cable £29,000.  

Maybe somebody could tell me their secret instead?  

Hi-Fi - Teufel DecoderStation 5 > AVI DM5

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RE: Marketing budgets

the record spot wrote:

Fairphone looks interesting, but it's not been fully worked out.  Users have reported issues with the handset that should've been ironed out at the product test stage by the coupe of accounts I'd read.  Nice idea though so I hope they keep going and improve the product.

Linn's secret?  Not sure really.  They built high quality hifi, so what if the LP12 was a rebadged Ariston, plenty of examples out there where a product was taken and modified.  For years, the Japanese pretty much did that across their electronics industry. In the 60s, the Japanese footprint in the US black and white TV marketplace was tiny.  By the early 70s, they'd pretty much wiped the floor with US competitors and manufacturers.  They took the product, redesigned it and improved on it.  The market voted with its wallets.

So it went with Linn.  They've adapted to the 21st Century ahead of quite a few companies in the CE field, come up with their own DS Majik line and plugged it to hell.  Is it good?  No idea, but for the money asked, one would like to think so.  

And on the other hand, you could get an entire Linn system for less than the money you'd lash out for some of Crystal Cable's products - a set of their Absolute Dream interconnects will set you back about £13,000.  A USB cable from the same company's same line £9,000 and their matching speaker cable £29,000.  

Maybe somebody could tell me their secret instead?  

Very well said!

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RE: Marketing budgets

steve_1979 wrote:

the record spot wrote:
...And on the other hand, you could get an entire Linn system for less than the money you'd lash out for some of Crystal Cable's products - a set of their Absolute Dream interconnects will set you back about £13,000.  A USB cable from the same company's same line £9,000 and their matching speaker cable £29,000.  

Maybe somebody could tell me their secret instead?  

Luvvit. There is indeed one born every minute.   ROFL

 

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CraigDS wrote: Does anyone

CraigDS wrote:

Does anyone have any idea what Linn's big secret is?


I'll have a go at answering this. Is it their Exakt system, which is their new DSP and digital active crossover system?

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