I forget what the material was now. It wasn't stone, but it was cold to the touch and looked stone like
Think it was called Corian...
Arcam CD72, Marantz PM6004, Dali Zensor 3, via Chord Crimson and QED Revelation. Virgin HD Tivo, Sony BDP370, LG 42" FHD telly.
PC- EvilEdna2: Pimped, overclocked hi-spec i5 2500K, . Audio Alchemy DDEv1, Rotel RA935BX, Mission 761I on housebricks with QED Revelation, which cost more than the dac, amp and speakers put together...
I should add that, mostly, new purchases have been funded by selling previous ones and I'm actually still feeling very settled with the Zensor 3s. I've been using the Denon amp for a year now, the turntable for nearly two years, and the CD player for about 4 months. Things are getting much more stable in MP's world of hi-fi.
You sound like a recovering addict!
HiFi / A/V / Bedroom
Mordaunt Short 902i Avant (still own)
B & W CM1's (still own)
Kef R500's (current).
Are there speakers you regret getting rid of? No
Have you disliked any of them? Not at the time. I was happy enough with the CM1's until my brother asked where the bass was.....Kef R500's followed shortly thereafter! I think it will be a long time before the Kef's are sold/replaced.
How many pairs have you got kicking about the house? All the above I think. Not sure about the Missions which were part of my 18th birthday present from my Mum & Dad. They were bought with an Aiwa record deck (linear tracking arm) and amp/tuner/cassette player that was my pride and joy for many years. All the speakers, bar the Missions still have their original boxes and are in immaculate condition.
Project III Xpression (Ortofon 2M Red), Audiolab 8200CD, Squeezebox Touch>Roksan Kandy K2>Kef R500
Not that many in the last 20 years or so. In order from early 90s to date.
Sonus Faber Elector
Sonus Faber Electa Amator
Martin Logan CLS-IIIz, REL subwoofers pair, can't remember the name.
Red Rose M3 ribbon hybrid, still have these in storage.
Studiospares/Seiwin SN4s active speakers in current use.
Well, for somebody who keeps promoting the Active route, you do in fact have good taste in passive speakers!
Nice of you to say so Cno......
Re actives, I am really a fan of the active option at the low end of the price spectrum and most of what I recommend is aimed at the kind of poster that wants power and punch on bass driven music at a low price. Under about £1k for amp and speakers some of the actives available are quite formidable, from my (current) favourite Presonus E8 at just £400, the Adam A7x and The Mackie HR624 and HR824, all bar the last of them well under £1k.
I know I am something of an enthusist, but for the application noted above these speakers will get the job done in a way that passive components at comparable prices will not, this has been my view for some time. Sadly they are a couple of steps too far out of the box for most, which is a shame.
Further up the price range I found some excellent active options around the £2k mark, Genelec, Adam S series Quested S7R and S8R for example, event the XXXXXX and sub. Again if clarity, transparency and neutrality are your requirements they offer fantastic value and returning to passive speakers is a very big shift, I can understand the hyperbole of some users.
Above this sort of price level I thought active monitors kind of leveled off, for home use anyway. As you spend more what you tend to get is bass extension and massive output levels, sufficient to cause embarassment in an untreated home situation. Big midfield or main monitors are really not suited to home use at all, there are exceptions but they are few.
The new PMC TwoTwo series may cause me to up my price estimate for viable solutions somewhat, but it is worth pointing out that the TwoTwo.5 at £3.3k is actually cheaper than all the passives in my list (ES14 excepted) if you include the power amp used and this is at 90's prices....!
We do so many shows in a row,
And these towns all look the same,
We just pass the time in our hotel room
And wander 'round backstage,
Till the lights come up, and we hear that crowd,
And we remember why we came.
Cambridge Audio R50
AVI9.1T with AVI Sub
I loved the ES14s but preferred the MA R852s (but only just).....though I think there may have been some common design between them (and Celestion SL6), but I could be wrong.
I felt these truly cemented MA place as a quality speaker brand, and Mo Iqbal brought a real touch of class to the cabinet making.
"Everything has been said before, but since nobody listens we have to keep going back and beginning all over again." André Gide
1. A pair of monstrous Technics speakers inherited from me late dad 1991 to 1997
2. A pair of Wharfedale for a tenner bought in Brighton sunday market in 1997
3. JPW bookshelf speakers in 1997
4. TDL RTL3SE in 1998
5. Heybrook Optima in 2000
6. Mission M71 in 2004
7. Mission M34i in 2007
8. EPOS M12.2 in 2008
9. ProAc Response D18 in 2010
HiFi: ClearAudio Concept TT, Musical Fidelity M6i and M6 DAC, M1s (CDT, CLiC, ViNL), Onkyo TA2600, SONY MDSJA20ES MDP, ProAc D18 with full Siltech cabling.
HT: Samsung UA55B7000 LED, OPPO BDP 95-EU,Marantz DV4003, Yamaha RX-V2067, Philips DVDR7300H, Infinity Primus Center, Wharfedale WH2, SW15 Sub, Mission M34i with full QED cabling
Bedroom: Apple AE, Bose WAVE Music Sytem III, Musical Fidelity M1 HPA headphone amp, Bose Over the Ear
HeadFi: Alessandro Grado MS Pro, Beyerdynamic T1, Bryston BHA-1 headphone Amp.
Office: iTunes, UD110 USB DAC, Bose Companion II, Bose AE2w
The 852s were designed by Robin Marshal to be a flagship product for MA but Mo would not pay for the custom drive units Robin wanted. Damn fine speaker though.
The ES 14s, with their own drivers, was pretty much what Robin wanted for the 852s. They were clearer and more explicit than the MAs, technically a superior speaker in a number of ways. The 852 had a reputation for sounding 'musical' but by that stage I had tired of Mo's overbearing manner and was not selling the brand.
The R852s were probably the best Monitor Audios I ever heard, I did an evaluation, for a third party, of the Bronze and Silver (were they the silver then, I cant remember) ranges, a most unpleasant experience.
Brahms Medway bookshelf
Goodmans Magnum K2 - They were sold as floorstanders but were much better off the ground.
Technics SB 501 - These were stand mounted by me which seemed to confuse very many people. They were excellent and were still in use by the person I sold them to until recently.
Tannoy Berkley. These were reasonably large floorstanders with 15 inch dual concentric drivers that I later had re wired and the crossover was upgraded.
I then had ten plus years of 5.1/6.1 until I got a new property that warranted returning to stereo.
AVI ADM 9T. Active standmounts that eclipsed the abilities of considerably more expensive speakers I had demoed at various dealers. My wife now has these in her art room.
AVI ADM 40. Active floorstanders that are sublime, their holographic sound stage is beyond compare. So not many speakers since @ 1970 but then I always spent a great deal of time auditioning contenders before shelling out my hard-earned [excepting the AVI ADM 9T].
Apple Lossless - ATV3 - AVI ADM 40 also ATV3 into AVI ADM 9T [my wife's system]
and Grado SR80i
Well, I think there is something in that. It all gets a bit silly in the end. Luckily, like Dougal, I feel the Zensor 3s are the best standmounts I've ever owned - in my case I feel they are the best speakers I've ever owned.
Rega RP3/White Belt/Elys2 - Denon DCD720AE - Pioneer A-30 - Dali Zensor 3.
That is very interesting, and sums up why I chose them over the ES14s.......musicality has always been the driving force behind all my choices. I didn't go for a CDP until I heard Linn's Karik/Numerik, which was the first time I'd heard the format giving a sound I could live with after the LP12 (which was far from "digital sounding").......and interestingly, still prefer the way it sounds compared to their later CDPs. The same applies to Linn's amps, preferring Kairn / LKs / klout, to their modern offerings......Linn's "old sound" is more musical to my ears, though less detailed / analytical.
I also don't get on with the current MA sound, so you appear to be reading my mind atm.......maybe it's a product of being brought up on the sound from those days.
It's fascinating to speak with someone with such inside knowledge from those days....so thank you for the insight.
A pioneer all in one home cinema system.
Mission Elegante E82 home cinema system
B&W MT30 speaker system
B&W FPM speaker system.
Main AV Setup: Panasonic 50VT65 TV, Pioneer Bdp-lx71, Pioneer Vsx-lx70, B&W FPM Series, B&W PV1, Optimum AV300 AV Stand, QED Silver Anniversary XT Speaker Cable & Chord Silver Plus HDMI Cables. Gadgets: iPad Air & iPhone 5S
1. B&W Matrix 802 series 3
2. Audio Physic Virgo
3. Dunlavy SC-IV
4. Dunlavy Athena/Aletha
5. B&W Nautilus 805
6. B&W Nautilus 804
7. B&W Nautilus 803
8. ATC SCM12
9. Dynaudio Contour S3.4
10. Cambridge audio S30
11. Dali Mentor Menuet
12. Dynaudio Focus 110
13. Proac Reponse Tablette Reference 8 SIgnature
14. Dali Zensor 1
15. Q Acoustics 2020i
16. Monitor Audio BX2
17. Kef LS50
18. Kef LS50 and Monitor Audio BX2 (bought again)
19. B&W 685
20. B&W CM5
21. Q Acoustics Concept 20
22. Q Acoustics Concept 20 and B&W CM5 (bought again)
Apropos of nothing in particular, except speakers.....for the last 20 years, I've been trying to remember the speakers that I heard in 1979 in Cambridge (possibly at Chew and Osborne) and playing Dire Straits "Sultans of Swing".
They sounded terrific that day, and the only clue that I could remember, was that they had an all-round black grill cloth. Well, I've just stumbled onto the answer.
Would anyone like to hazzard a guess what they were?.....it's a tough one, but this forum never ceases to amaze, with the way the Hifi Sherlocks seem to come up with answers.
Wharfedale Denton 2
Realistic Optimus 45
Realistic Mach 2 (15inch bass-mental)
Jamo power 566
Mordaunt Short MS 25i
Monitor Audio Studio 20s
Monitor Audio Studio 50s
Jamo Concert 8
Jamo Concert 11
Monitor Audio GR60s
Spendor A9s (Current)
Kef R900/500 (Current)
I don't regret any of them, It's all a learning process after all.... think I got there in the end, but it has been fun all the way.
And I doubt I've finished
Lounge: Panasonic VT50 65'', Pioneer SCLX86, Oppo 105, Sky HD 2TB, XBOX 360, PS3, Wii U. KEF R 900 (fronts) R500 (rears) 600c (centre), R800ds (surrounds) x2 (front height/width) Rel R328 subs (x2)
Bedroom: Pioneer Kuro KRP 500a, Humax YouView, Pansonic BDT 500, XBOX 360.
Hi Fi: Leema Antila iis ECO, Audio Synthesis Dax Decade, Lavardin IT, Spendor A9s, Rel Storm 3, on Atacama ERIS 3 tier stand, Chord Powerchords, Studio Connections reference speaker cable and interconnects.
Gaming P.C: Intel i7 3960X six core (Overclocked), MSI X79A Motherboard, 2 x GTX 680s, 480gb SSD, 4TB (2 x 2TB) SATA III 6GB/s 7200 RPM Hard Drives, 32GB 2400Mhz Memory, Creative Fatality soundcard, Bluray and DVD drives, Corsair H80 Liquid cooling. 27'' Samsung series 9 IPS 2560 x 1440 monitor http://www.flickr.com/photos/95396534@N04/sets/72157633379702447/
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