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Seen it so many times on this forum, especially about MAs. Does it mean sibilance or hefty treble and bass or all three?

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My view is that it means the speaker has little subtlety or a good mid range...just a forward splashy treble and a thumping uncontrolled bass.

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Perhaps I'm so used to the MA sound...

Certainly they have a lot of treble, something I've always loved with all my previous systems. Even when I had the Wharfedales and Pioneer amp it wasn't uncommon for the treble to be on max and the bass just over half way.

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

Tis what most speaker manufacturers produce these days, cos apparently thats what the public want !. Loose one note rubbish bass that makes yer shelves rattle, cos thats what the public want,lol, coupled with *midband droop + raised treble* which melts yer earwax / strips paint.*

* this is the bit where peeps post 'my speakers have great detail/insight blah blah blah' . Erm nah no they dont its GLARE , its horrible and its tiring . Strange innit that the Germans where always knocked for producing 'boom tizz' speakers and the Brits or whathaveyou for being laid back/ boring etc etc even though they were technicaly correct and sounded good. Tis tother way around these days. 

 

Its not just MA Mr Penguin, there are droves of em out there . Yuk , wheres the vomit smiley. Smile

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plastic penguin wrote:

Perhaps I'm so used to the MA sound...

Certainly they have a lot of treble, something I've always loved with all my previous systems. Even when I had the Wharfedales and Pioneer amp it wasn't uncommon for the treble to be on max and the bass just over half way.

I don't think the MAs are "boom tiz" just because they are a little forward in the treble and have substantial bass...it's just an OTT derogatory comment from those who don't like them.

As you have said many times, there are systems (Arcam) where these inject oft needed pizzaz into a slightly smooth presentation. Cables from Merlin and Van Den Hul can also tame things a bit as well (imo)

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Tis what most speaker manufacturers produce these days, cos apparently thats what the public want !. Loose one note rubbish bass that makes yer shelves rattle, cos thats what the public want,lol, coupled with *midband droop + raised treble* which melts yer earwax / strips paint.*

 

rolling on the floor laughing Please don't be afraid to tell it like it is! Wink I use the subtle approach....maybe so subtle that it has little effect! doh!

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Lol, yeah i know Cno not very subtle was I. Thing is peeps tend to take the facts as an insult to their system which is daft. If they like what they are hearing then fine by me. But,and well ok 'boom tizz' is an oft missused old description, if you dont want the answer dont ask the question,lol.  Smile

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Lol, yeah i know Cno not very subtle was I. Thing is peeps tend to take the facts as an insult to their system which is daft. If they like what they are hearing then fine by me. But,and well ok 'boom tizz' is an oft missused old description, if you dont want the answer dont ask the question,lol.  Smile

 

It's a shame it's so difficult to get people to look outside the usual suspects, and try something different.

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It's a shame it's so difficult to get people to look outside the usual suspects, and try something different.

 

Tell me about it mate. I read some of the 'reco me some speaker 'threads' and just know which 3 or 4 brands will dominate, but i sit on my hands.

Lemmings seem to spring to mind quite a lot,lol. 

 

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Tell me about it mate. I read some of the 'reco me some speaker 'threads' and just know which 3 or 4 brands will dominate, but i sit on my hands.

What speakers (of different brands) would make it into your top 3?

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What speakers (of different brands) would make it into your top 3?

Without spending silly money and current models i guess ?.

 

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CnoEvil wrote:

What speakers (of different brands) would make it into your top 3?

Without spending silly money and current models i guess ?.

 

I'll give you one in each price bracket (standmount or floorstander):

- £2k - £3k
- £3k - £5k
- £6k - £10k

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

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floyd droid wrote:

CnoEvil wrote:

What speakers (of different brands) would make it into your top 3?

Without spending silly money and current models i guess ?.

 

I'll give you one in each price bracket (standmount or floorstander): - £2k - £3k - £3k - £5k - £6k - £10k

It's nice to just eavesdrop on the rich sometimes.

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I'll give you one in each price bracket (standmount or floorstander): - £2k - £3k - £3k - £5k - £6k - £10k

 

Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Baby Grand  ( prolly a tad over 3k nowadays, dunno tbh Cno). Lovely sound for the money

Tannoy DC10s. Not with solid state , they sound awful. Great speakers though.

ARTs ,any ARTs dont care, ARTs. 

 

Of course thats what i like and liked the sound of in those price brackets.

For the general £££ that are lobbed around on here then i would encourage peeps to have a listen to Tannoys DC6s, Epos Elans , Viennas. Q accoustics at the budget end cos believe me they sing pretty darn good for the money. 

Amps , well valves but peeps are scared of the ruddy things. So i would point peeps at Creek (cos mike knows what he is doing). Primare and mibbe a few others .

 

Edit. Quad ESLs sound awesome but not the most room/tother half friendly.

 

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It's nice to just eavesdrop on the rich sometimes.

Ah, but talk's cheap!

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Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Baby Grand  ( prolly a tad over 3k nowadays, dunno tbh Cno). Lovely sound for the money

Tannoy DC10s. Not with solid state , they sound awful. Great speakers though.

ARTs ,any ARTs dont care, ARTs. 

Of course thats what i like and liked the sound of in those price brackets.

For the general £££ that are lobbed around on here then i would encourage peeps to have a listen to Tannoys DC6s, Epos Elans , Viennas. Q accoustics at the budget end cos believe me they sing pretty darn good for the money. 

Amps , well valves but peeps are scared of the ruddy things. So i would point peeps at Creek (cos mike knows what he is doing). Primare and mibbe a few others .

Edit. Quad ESLs sound awesome but not the most room/tother half friendly.

 

Interesting.

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