The one thing that stands those MAs above the DB1is was TV or DVD. With music the DBs are better but when I played films the MAs went into another dimension. They are epic at in this area.
I'll definitely give the Kefs a go and let you know my feelings.
Kef generally make speakers that excel at both. If I listened exclusively to 2 channel, I might have gone with something else such as Sonus Faber or Audio Note.
Must say, I thought PMC were not too shabby for HT use....or were the standmounts just too small?
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I'll give you one in each price bracket (standmount or floorstander): - £2k - £3k - £3k - £5k - £6k - £10k
Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Baby Grand ( prolly a tad over 3k nowadays, dunno tbh Cno). Lovely sound for the money
Tannoy DC10s. Not with solid state , they sound awful. Great speakers though.
ARTs ,any ARTs dont care, ARTs.
Of course thats what i like and liked the sound of in those price brackets.
For the general £££ that are lobbed around on here then i would encourage peeps to have a listen to Tannoys DC6s, Epos Elans , Viennas. Q accoustics at the budget end cos believe me they sing pretty darn good for the money.
Amps , well valves but peeps are scared of the ruddy things. So i would point peeps at Creek (cos mike knows what he is doing). Primare and mibbe a few others .
Edit. Quad ESLs sound awesome but not the most room/tother half friendly.
The beethoven baby grands are indeed lovely speakers. Glad to see someone who likes viennas too. I would the proac response d18 upwards in my list too. They offer the same sweet but entertaining sound as viennas.
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Yeah, probably just a slight shortfall due to size, although for pure music repro they are superb. So, logically, the GB1i, with a bigger cabinet, should fill that void. And the bass should be tighter and the they have front firing ports. Mind you, at this stage, it's all theory until I hear them.
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Probably this. My DB1i work nicely for TV and movies since I've added a sub. Actually, even pre-sub, they were good for TV that had no requirement for deep bass. In fact, I find that running the TV into the DAC section and listening through the hifi sometimes shows up how bad the sound mixing is in a studio or issues with mike placement and echo in talk shows/variety programmes, etc.
TBH, as good as the DB1i are, considering that you use floorstanders I'd encourage you to be testing floorstanders like the GB1i otherwise I think you will find yourself missing deep bass, even if you aren't a real bass-head.
Desk-Fi: Mac Mini - NuForce Icon HDP - Fostex PM0.4n - Audio Technica ATH900x - Sennnheiser HD595 - Grado SR80i
Bedroom system: Esoteric RZ-1 - PMC DB1i / iPod Classic - Onkyo NDS1000 - Firestone Audio FUBAR IV
I mentioned the DB1i slight shortfall in direct comparison with the RS6s. Certainly the GB1is seem the logical choice, given the way they voice the music, but I won't dismiss other makes such as the Kefs (R300), Totems, ProAc...
Sounds wise. I wouldn't dismiss anything until you try it and hopefully strike that magic combination.
There's a (pre-owned) white pair of Totem Arros going for £895 (RRP a bit over £2k I think)
Thanks for the heads up. I'm not really a 'Milky Bar Kid', preferring the more traditional finishes.
Had my eye on these
but fear the Leema may not do them justice.
I don't like the shiny white/black ones either. That is a beautiful finish. Is that their mahogany veneer?
Yes. It certainly looks the biz but I've heard conflicting details about Totem's sound. Some say they have a house sound, while others disagree.
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PC > AVI Neutron Five 2.1
Sony NWZ-A847 64GB Walkman > Westone UM3x
The ultimate blind test is this forum, isn't it?
boom and tizz is listening to a bose acousticmass system
Boom & Tizz is also the recorded material you play on your system. Any systen can only sound as good as the stuff played on it.
Most systems are just good at playing tricks on our ears. In actual fact most systems cannot reproduce true full sounding instruments. Warmth around the instruments make them sound almost real & gives the illusion of real sounding instruments. By judging any Hifi equipment you cannot really totally say one component has a type of sound, cause may sound totally different taking into account types of speakers amps sources, cables & acoustics.
A very good example of Boom & Tizz to me is in a night club, were house, techno & metal music is played loud & hard. Simples!
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Yup, experienced this boom and tiz the other night at a Grease tribute sing-a-long. The sound was very loud, immensely boomy and a cloying sound.
Really makes me appreciate how controlled my system is...
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