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plastic penguin wrote:
Really do think the Creek will sound slightly different but not better. I really think speakers are the issue here - if there is an issue.

Epos speakers and Creek amplification should be worth exploring together given how both companies (one company since 1999) have shared a common history (even during the Mordaunt Short/TGI years).

 

Absolutely - in theory they should be ideal. In theory, Marantz and Mordaunt Short should have been cracking, but it doesn't always pan out that way.

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BTW, what is the opposite to boom and tiz? This perhaps?

That's known as "NOON  ZIZZ" 

Really would like to hear a modern Musical Fidelity, and see whether the sound justifies the fuss. The only experience I've had with MF was with A300: Built like tank, 200 watts of pent-up power yet the bass sounded woolley and just instantly forgettable. This was compaed to the A65 (and RS6s and CD73T), which didn't have the power but sounded open and airy.

So I do think that, at least, a listen to the M3i would be a good benchmark of whether the brand appeals or not.

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Really would like to hear a modern Musical Fidelity, and see whether the sound justifies the fuss. The only experience I've had with MF was with A300: Built like tank, 200 watts of pent-up power yet the bass sounded woolley and just instantly forgettable. This was compaed to the A65 (and RS6s and CD73T), which didn't have the power but sounded open and airy.

So I do think that, at least, a listen to the M3i would be a good benchmark of whether the brand appeals or not.

The other two amps to keep an eye out for are the Sugden Mystro and Electrocompaniet PI-1.

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You should give the M6i a try, used available for £1200, probably 1700 ex-dem.  

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You should give the M6i a try, used available for £1200, probably 1700 ex-dem.  

To be fair, though, for those figures I could pick up a Leema Tucana MKII for less than 2k.

I really love the Pulses fun-filled presentation. It is a breath of fresh air compared to other price compatible integrateds I've heard by some margin too.

Harking back to the original subject, I'm keen to see how it stacks up with ProAc or other much more controlled speaker.

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plastic penguin wrote:
BTW, what is the opposite to boom and tiz?

Arcam.

(Well, according to those who make sweeping statements, anyway).

I think you should hang on to the Leema, possibly even the CD player too, and get a decent streamer and change your speakers. I think you'd have to spend quite a lot of money on speakers before your Leema holds you back.

But then, it'll cost you a fair few bob to get something noticeably better than the RS6 (if they're your cup of tea at the mo).

Oh, and if you find something in a dark finish, let me know Smile

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It has always seemed to me that the general trend of this site is to spend to much on amps and not enough on speakers.

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

To a degree you're right. Funny that amps came into the equation. I've never heard of a "boom tiz" amp. Mind you, I've never heard my system go "boom tizz" either.

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floyd droid wrote:

Thats the badger PP.

 

That's Badgers Mount. This isn't too far away (really, there's a place near Bromley called Badgers Mount) rockin out

Yes, it's near Pratts Bottom.

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This is the problem. The system I've got fizzes and pops (no, not boom and tiz)... it's great fun.

Really do think the Creek will sound slightly different but not better. I really think speakers are the issue here - if there is an issue.

As you well know Totems go well with my combo, but I'd also like to try out PMC Twenty series, B&W 805S, ProAc Response D1 or D2 or even MA GX100. 

Mr F.Droid esq. knows what he's on about, and has come up with something worth following up. This system has musicality at its core and so is worth finding out how it works for you.....might even help end the speculation.

Don't doubt Mr. Droid's knowledge, hence I'll try a couple of the suggestions.

Sometimes I really feel like the Mr. Bean of the forum - I've heard loads of different amps over the past few years, and over a 30 year period countless different set-ups.

The Pulse, IMO, is about as mellifluous as they come at the price and some. When I heard a Bryston, just after purchasing the Pulse, it bettered it in some areas, such as detail, bass definition and bass depth. However, in terms of imaging, microdynamics and smileability, the Pulse is every bit a match. (That particular Bryston I seem to remember retailed around £2,200, I think).

 

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Excuse my ignorance. 

Re. SS amps, assuming all things are equal re power / current, what is there about an amp that could portray a particular characteristic different to another. Circuits and wires can't be tuned ?

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

Have you heard the Totem Forests with your Leema PP?

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Have you heard the Totem Forests with your Leema PP?

Nope, just Arros. What do the Forests sound like?

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Don't doubt Mr. Droid's knowledge, hence I'll try a couple of the suggestions.

Sometimes I really feel like the Mr. Bean of the forum - I've heard loads of different amps over the past few years, and over a 30 year period countless different set-ups.

The Pulse, IMO, is about as mellifluous as they come at the price and some. When I heard a Bryston, just after purchasing the Pulse, it bettered it in some areas, such as detail, bass definition and bass depth. However, in terms of imaging, microdynamics and smileability, the Pulse is every bit a match. (That particular Bryston I seem to remember retailed around £2,200, I think).

What FD was really trying to do, was get you to listen to a Valve amp (Icon Audio), but due to the constraints you have on the distance you can travel, he had to compromise and come up with something that you could access.

If you haven't heard Epos speakers mixed with the Destiny amp, the experiment is worth doing, especially if you can take it home to try different combinations.

I think I know what you are looking for...which is emotionally stimulating and engaging, while being toe-tappingly dynamic but remaining as natural as possible (with no "grit or spit" in the treble). This is where Valve amps excel, and why I like Class A so much.

It's quite possible that the Pulse is giving you half of what you are looking for, but it's still worth the looking at the alternatives. Epos speakers are exceptional value, so should also be tried, due to the fact that they are so different from the MAs.

Also, as has been stated above (and which you already know), the source should be looked at.

Since you have read what I think so many times, you know exactly where I'm coming from, which is to encourage the less trodden path and the constant challenging of one's knowledge.

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plastic penguin wrote:

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Have you heard the Totem Forests with your Leema PP?

Nope, just Arros. What do the Forests sound like?

 

i have heard them.  I am really not very good at describing what I hear, but I will give it a try.  They sound much fuller than the Arros and Staff IMO. I really like the Totems in general. Very lively without any tizz, and the Forests have plenty of boom. A very involving sound, very PRATty without being as forward as for example the B&W CM range, without being as laid back as Spendors or SF. Like most north american products they are pretty pricey here, limited availability and loyal following means the second hand market is still pricey from what I've seen.