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Okey doke here ya go PP. Remember tis totaly different and ive gone by Chebbys prices ,cos it gave me a bit more money to play with. I was hopeing to keep it like for like in the wallet dept but got fed up searching for the valve amp i had in mind. Shame as it would have come out as pretty much the same price as your gear cost new.

All a bit of fun, but would be great if you could get to listen to this set up and post your thoughts likes/dislikes in comparison to your current kit.

Epos Elan 30 or 35. £1000/£1200. Either or, depending on your room size.

Creek Destiny 2 (wayhey its a trannie,lol). £1635.

Both at  Oranges and Kumquats. 

I would have loved to find an Icon Audio/Epos dealer near you but got bored. Pity as the Icon Stereo 20 would drive either epos to silly levels and give you another option to try out , and would have pulled the budget in to circa 2k.

 

One mans meat and all that stuff. 

 

Okay - Creek I really admire (Evo range) so the Destiny shouldn't be an issue. The old Epos M series I liked (M12s)... not a problem there. Also Creek does match rather well with MAs...

The biggest issue is whether the Destiny will better the Pulse? Only one way to find out, I guess. Smile

I'll paste this info across and give the Destiny. Either it'll blow my socks off or I'll be up the Creek...

Thank you floyd.

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I would imagine (never heard a leema or a badger or beaver for that matter,lol) that there could well be a fair difference between the two. If , big if, you can ponce the amp and speeks for a listen at home obv you then have the option of a myriad of pairings. Ok a few options  Tongue.

 

Hey and it kept the thread going !!.

 

Nows the time for it to go t**s up innit,hee hee.

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floyd droid wrote:

I would imagine (never heard a leema or a badger or beaver for that matter,lol) that there could well be a fair difference between the two. If , big if, you can ponce the amp and speeks for a listen at home obv you then have the option of a myriad of pairings. Ok a few options  Tongue.

Hey and it kept the thread going !!.

Nows the time for it to go t**s up innit,hee hee.

This will be a very nice contrast to PPs system, and as you say, will allow for a "pic 'n mix" if necessary.

I expect the the Destiny will be more mellifluous than the Pulse, maybe introducing a silkiness that is not the norm for a SS amp. The possible down side is I think it will be a little more laid back than the Pulse.

I would say it will be much the same story with the speakers, with the Epos (Elan or even Epic) which will be less forthright than the MA.

I think coming from a bouncy, forward system, it can take a day or two to acclimatize....if this doesn't happen, you always have Creek/MA or Leema/Epos; both of which should be a very good halfway house.

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floyd droid wrote:

I would imagine (never heard a leema or a badger or beaver for that matter,lol) that there could well be a fair difference between the two. If , big if, you can ponce the amp and speeks for a listen at home obv you then have the option of a myriad of pairings. Ok a few options  Tongue.

Hey and it kept the thread going !!.

Nows the time for it to go t**s up innit,hee hee.

This will be a very nice contrast to PPs system, and as you say, will allow for a "pic 'n mix" if necessary.

I expect the the Destiny will be more mellifluous than the Pulse, maybe introducing a silkiness that is not the norm for a SS amp. The possible down side is I think it will be a little more laid back than the Pulse.

I would say it will be much the same story with the speakers, with the Epos (Elan or even Epic) which will be less forthright than the MA.

I think coming from a bouncy, forward system, it can take a day or two to acclimatize....if this doesn't happen, you always have Creek/MA or Leema/Epos; both of which should be a very good halfway house.

This is the problem. The system I've got fizzes and pops (no, not boom and tiz)... it's great fun.

Really do think the Creek will sound slightly different but not better. I really think speakers are the issue here - if there is an issue.

As you well know Totems go well with my combo, but I'd also like to try out PMC Twenty series, B&W 805S, ProAc Response D1 or D2 or even MA GX100. 

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Ferzackerly Cno, thats why i sourced this set up localy for PP, a 'polar opposite'. Pity about not being able to lob the Icon into the mix but heyho. 

Erm, one teeny weeny whoopsie PP. Sorry i forgot to mention this but you will be stuck with listening to ceedees. Unless you can ponce a Destiny that has the optional phonoboard fitted.

No doubt you have or will be doing some homework anyways.  Smile

 

Passes an hr or two dunnit .

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plastic penguin wrote:
Really do think the Creek will sound slightly different but not better. I really think speakers are the issue here - if there is an issue.

Epos speakers and Creek amplification should be worth exploring together given how both companies (one company since 1999) have shared a common history (even during the Mordaunt Short/TGI years).

 

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Epos speakers and Creek amplification should be worth exploring together given how both companies (one company since 1999) have shared a common history (even during the Mordaunt Short/TGI years).

And thats why i paired them together Chebby. Although i'm confident the Icon would have sounded damn fine with the Epos speakers.

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This is the problem. The system I've got fizzes and pops (no, not boom and tiz)... it's great fun.

Really do think the Creek will sound slightly different but not better. I really think speakers are the issue here - if there is an issue.

As you well know Totems go well with my combo, but I'd also like to try out PMC Twenty series, B&W 805S, ProAc Response D1 or D2 or even MA GX100. 

 

I think you should try it.

Something is "better" (for you) if you prefer it. If you can get them for home dem, you will find it very enlightening to see what happens when you mix stuff about a bit.

Despite how he sounds (a tad nutty, but in a good way shifty ), oi' Mr F.Droid esq. knows what he's on about, and has come up with something worth following up.

This system has musicality at its core and so is worth finding out how it works for you.....might even help end the speculation.

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...might even help end the speculation.

And there you have it in a nutshell  good job. PP could well think 'nah far too laid back for me'. But a fun experiment and he hopefully gets to play with some different kit for a while. 

As i say. Passes an hr dunnit ,lol.

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CnoEvil wrote:

...might even help end the speculation.

And there you have it in a nutshell  good job. PP could well think 'nah far too laid back for me'. But a fun experiment and he hopefully gets to play with some different kit for a while. 

As i say. Passes an hr dunnit ,lol.

I'll certainly have a listen to something as you mention and maybe a different makes. However, I do think the Destiny is a known amp to me, having heard the Evo2 on home dem. The Destiny should be better than the Evo, but tonally, have similar or exacting traits.

Another point, albeit fairly insignificant: My Pulse has been modded by Leema. A lot of the internals are that of the MKIII version, so clarity and punch is slightly different to the original MKII.

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plastic penguin wrote:

The Destiny should be better than the Evo, but tonally, have similar or exacting traits.

Another point, albeit fairly insignificant: My Pulse has been modded by Leema. A lot of the internals are that of the MKIII version, so clarity and punch is slightly different to the original MKII.

I'm far from a Creek expert, but I think some of the Creek models have been voiced differently....maybe someome could fill the gaps in my knowledge.

The fact that your Pulse has been updated will give the Creek a good chalange.

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Lets not forget that i was trying to work on something different for roughly the initial outlay. I could have, maybe, paired the Suggy A21 with the Epos as a benchmark speaker, prolly more to your liking but not so 'bright' for want of a better word. Or perhaps a KT88/120 valve amp (depending on make and how the circuit is laid). But either or would have blitzed my self imposed budget restraints and primarily the object of the exercise.

Aint Pmcs a bit forward ?,lol.

 

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I'm far from a Creek expert, but I think some of the Creek models have been voiced differently....maybe someome could fill the gaps in my knowledge.

 

Civilised Cno. None of that screechy spitty glary transistor** nonsense. Bit like valve amps *

 

 

* excluding most yank tanks cos they breath different air over the pond,lol.

** not all tranny amps byraway.

 

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S'okay, the likes of Creek/Epos, Audio Analogue, MF M6i are all there to be aimed at...

BTW, what is the opposite to boom and tiz? This perhaps?

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plastic penguin wrote:

BTW, what is the opposite to boom and tiz? This perhaps?

That's known as "NOON  ZIZZ" 

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