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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

See also "smile frequency curve" (i.e. exentuating the bass and treble frequencies) and similar expressions.

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ID. wrote:

See also "smile frequency curve" (i.e. exentuating the bass and treble frequencies) and similar expressions.

Not for me.  I think of boom and tizz as being less to do with frequency response.  Boom is easy to explain, slow, uncontrolled bass giving a smearing of detail and lack of pitch definition.  I find tizz harder to describe but I know instantly when I hear it.  I don't ascribe it to a bright or forward treble, I personally think it is around the region of higher female vocals and adds a harshness or glare to the sound.  And I absolutely hate it.  Far too many speakers boom and tizz to varying degrees - yuck.

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

Some describe MAs as boomy. Nope. Perhaps try different amplification or different speaker position, but hooked to Leema it is deep and fast.

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Off topic here girls for a min.....

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Have to say it took me a minute to realise what you edited,lol.   Anyone who knows me will confirm that Racism doesnt even register in my make up as a person. 

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plastic penguin wrote:

Some describe MAs as boomy. Nope.

Compared to what though penguin, compared to what.  It's all relative.

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ID. wrote:

See also "smile frequency curve" (i.e. exentuating the bass and treble frequencies) and similar expressions.

Not for me.  I think of boom and tizz as being less to do with frequency response.  Boom is easy to explain, slow, uncontrolled bass giving a smearing of detail and lack of pitch definition.  I find tizz harder to describe but I know instantly when I hear it.  I don't ascribe it to a bright or forward treble, I personally think it is around the region of higher female vocals and adds a harshness or glare to the sound.  And I absolutely hate it.  Far too many speakers boom and tizz to varying degrees - yuck.

Fair enough. In isolation, that's more what I think of those terms, but when I see them together, boom-tizz-speakers, without thinking I pretty much associated the terms. When I owned B&W 685 speakers I saw them described as both boom tizz and having a smile frequency response. More accurately I'd say the bass is a little bloated and some find the metal domes to be a bit tizzy and can emphaize some treble frequencies. I've heard the same accusations levelled at Monitor Audio speakers.

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 adds a harshness or glare to the sound.  And I absolutely hate it.  Far too many speakers boom and tizz to varying degrees - yuck.

good job . See post 3 !. 

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

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plastic penguin wrote:

Some describe MAs as boomy. Nope.

Compared to what though penguin, compared to what.  It's all relative.

Compared to other price compatible floorstanders. Heard other, smaller towers that sound heavier, including Spendor A5s.

My system has a old skool sound to it, minus the oven-like warmth or any nasty bass bloom. 

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RE: What is "boom, tizz"?

 exentuating puzzled  Might that be ACCENTUATING?? i.e over-emphasising and what is this PROLLY in other posts. What I would like to know is, am I missing out on some new terms, or is it just that other posters cannot spell?

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Tis what most speaker manufacturers produce these days, cos apparently thats what the public want !

The link from Sean Olive suggests that people actually prefer a neutral speaker, when given the chance to compare side by side.  In the video, the speaker test comes after the mp3/cd test.  I think a preferrence for 'boom and tizz' comes from flawed, short term demo's - they sound more impressive at a dealers.

http://seanolive.blogspot.co.uk/

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I've heard speakers in showrooms that exhibit these traits in some form or other. They are usually brash looking multi-driver towers. I voiced my dislike to a salesperson in a branch of Sevenoaks who agreed & added that they were designed to appeal to single young males who had no idea what decent HiFi sounded like! I chuckled. These were KEFs, not MA.

However, as amusing as this observation was to me, I'd suggest that many decent systems can also have this trait due to poorly matched equipment, poorly placed speakers or just as importantly - sub-optimal listening positions (I can push my chair back 18" & the bass drops off considerably as an example). I don't think the bass has to be particularly wooly but just overblown. Tizz is more dfficult to describe for me as well. Some recordings of pop music are more prone to boom & tizz than say jazz or classical but the phrase shouts mid-range suck-out to me.

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 exentuating puzzled  Might that be ACCENTUATING?? i.e over-emphasising and what is this PROLLY in other posts. What I would like to know is, am I missing out on some new terms, or is it just that other posters cannot spell?

 

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Trefor Patten wrote:

 what is this PROLLY in other posts.

 

Would that be a question? Deserving of a question mark, I'd say. 

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 adds a harshness or glare to the sound.  And I absolutely hate it.  Far too many speakers boom and tizz to varying degrees - yuck.

good job . See post 3 !. 

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The link from Sean Olive suggests that people actually prefer a neutral speaker, when given the chance to compare side by side.  In the video, the speaker test comes after the mp3/cd test.  I think a preferrence for 'boom and tizz' comes from flawed, short term demo's - they sound more impressive at a dealers.

http://seanolive.blogspot.co.uk/

Im sure that they do Craig. I have mentioned this 'attention grabbing' sound at the dealers before. But if units keep moving then they will continue to make them. Because that must be 'what people want'. Dunno mate tis all a bit baffleing to me.