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JohnDuncan:
He might be interested in those tattoos, certainly.

Oh dear, exactly the obvious response we were expecting!ÿ

There's definitely a resemblance.

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  Some may suffer hair loss Big Smile


How very dare you!


 

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I think that what someone wants to do with their own living space is up to them, but sometimes people blame their speakers when really the problems is the room, personally speaking I think it's vital that a pair of speakers or whatever it tested in a acoustically treated room, at least that way you are hearing the spŠakers true response, now let's say for example that the room was not treated and the reviewer went on to say the that the speaker had a bass hump at 125Hz and boomed badly at 62Hz, when in fact all he was hearing was a room mode, the customer would think X speaker was poor because it was reported to be boomy when in fact it wasn't, so I think reviews of kit should be carried out in a professional manner, i.e a treated room, if people want a different sound response in their own environment then that's there choice.

Regarding the review itself, who cares? haha.

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Simon Lucas:

Thaiman:
  Some may suffer hair loss Big Smile


How very dare you!


 



you still look good without a lot of hair Wink


(I thought you might reply to my post, Andy also going a bit thin too!)

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Thaiman:

(I thought you might reply to my post, Andy also going a bit thin too!)

Mr Clough has always been fashionably svelte. Not a problem I have myself...

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silly:
I think that what someone wants to do with their own living space is up to them, but sometimes people blame their speakers when really the problems is the room, personally speaking I think it's vital that a pair of speakers or whatever it tested in a acoustically treated room, at least that way you are hearing the spŠakers true response, now let's say for example that the room was not treated and the reviewer went on to say the that the speaker had a bass hump at 125Hz and boomed badly at 62Hz, when in fact all he was hearing was a room mode, the customer would think X speaker was poor because it was reported to be boomy when in fact it wasn't, so I think reviews of kit should be carried out in a professional manner, i.e a treated room, if people want a different sound response in their own environment then that's there choice.


 Yep... I'm with you on the use of accoustically treated rooms... but if someone wants to read about a review being perfomed in the reviewers livingroom/bedroom/bathroom then who am I to argue with them?... Big Smile


silly:
Regarding the review itself, who cares? haha.


The complaint about the KEF review might have had validity if WHF had always bashed KEF products... then an arguement for bias might be possible... but considering how many 5 star reviews and awards KEF has received recently from WHF, it's just rubbish to suddenly complain that either they are biased or their listening rooms are messed up (since those same reviewers loved the other KEF gear in those same listening rooms)... What would be really funny is what these same protestors will say if other major mags give the new KEFs unfavourable reviews... Will it then be that the whole industry is wrong and only KEF dealers know the truth?


I think we all just need to relax, kick off our shoes and listen to some tunes....

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Well I thinkÿSonicaccuracyisall got what he was trolling for...

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Ajani:

The complaint about the KEF review might have had validity if WHF had always bashed KEF products... then an arguement for bias might be possible... but considering how many 5 star reviews and awards KEF has received recently from WHF, it's just rubbish to suddenly complain that either they are biased or their listening rooms are messed up (since those same reviewers loved the other KEF gear in those same listening rooms)... What would be really funny is what these same protestors will say if other major mags give the new KEFs unfavourable reviews... Will it then be that the whole industry is wrong and only KEF dealers know the truth?


I think we all just need to relax, kick off our shoes and listen to some tunes....

The point is that our listening rooms, like the test-tracks our colleagues on Autocar use, aren't supposed to be be real-world - they're a reviewing tool, and tell you a lot more about what a product is doing than just plonking it down in someone's front room. Or in Autocar's case, simply driving it to and from work a few times.

Based on what they hear in the main testing rooms, and the others which have less or no treatment - we have a total of six rooms, after all - our reviewers have the experience to be able to tell how a product will perform in a variety of domestic situtations.

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How does this work with something like a Dali which uses reflections in harmony?

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Andrew Everard:

Thaiman:

(I thought you might reply to my post, Andy also going a bit thin too!)

Mr Clough has always been fashionably svelte. Not a problem I have myself...




Are you telling us that's not a rug?...we need to know.
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Ok as a owner of a NEW pair of kef IQ5 SE's that still warrant further running in due to this magazine and forum's advice, maybe 30 hours or so... so far!


I can understand that Kef have had to increase the price by £100 .. everything else has increased considerably so its understandable Hi-Fi does too.


But can someone explain to me how a company as well established as Kef could not improve on the success they've had with the IQ5 SE's...... in only improving on the my recent 5 star purchase?


ps before i get shot down i'm a newbie here and obviously not that experienced as you guys and girls here.


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But can someone explain to me how a company as well established as Kef could not improve on the success they've had with the IQ5 SE's...... in only improving on the my recent 5 star purchase?

They have improved on their 5 star product. Yes, it has cost KEF a little more money, but they have improved them. KEF are very aware of the competition, and I'm also sure they've compared their own products to others before putting it out there for the public to sample.

I just can't believe that an audibly improved product can drop 2 stars over it's predecessor.

And for certain people's information, I'm not condemning WHF, merely raising some issues. Why can't they be brought up and dealt with without me jumped upon like a chavs protecting their girlfriend?
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JoelSim:

How does this work with something like a Dali which uses reflections in harmony?

As I said, we have six rooms, with a variety of acoustic treatments and thus reflectivity.

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Tear Drop:
Are you telling us that's not a rug?...we need to know.

Zip it! 

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4LKN4:
And for certain people's information, I'm not condemning WHF, merely raising some issues. Why can't they be brought up and dealt with without me jumped upon like a chavs protecting their girlfriend?


And those issues you raised have been answered and proven to not be issues. Are you just selectively ignoring them so can believe in your fantasy just to make you happy? If so, fair enough, whatever helps you sleep.