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what do manufacturers use ?
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i think we can all agree (or agree to disagree !) that cables and equipment supports can influence how a hifi system sounds.

therefore what cables, equipment supports and hardware do manufacturers actually use when testing/tuning components ?

(i believe naim audio are the only company that sell everything you need - cables, equipment racks and upgraded power supplies).

has any body contacted hifi companies to ask what they actually use ?  what is the "industry standard" ?

if enough of us ask, and post replies on here, it will eliminate alot of the "heated debates" on this forum......

(often lots of different answers to the same questions)

at the end of the day, if there was only 1 mains, interconnect, speaker cable and equipment support option available, all that would be required would be to select a source, amplifier and speakers and hifi purchasing would be alot simpler........

 

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mikefarrow wrote:

what is the "industry standard" ?

if enough of us ask, and post replies on here, it will eliminate alot of the "heated debates" on this forum.....

 

ROFL

Oh, you were being serious...    I doubt that anything will eliminate the heated debates other than not mentioning the war.

I don't think there is any consensus in "the industry" either. I'm sure plenty of companies do cables too. I know Linn does. Esoteric also sell pricey cables.

I seem to remember some people noting what manufacturers used when demonstrating their kit at shows, etc.

 

Stuff.

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"PMC recommend using a high quality thick multi-strand Oxygen Free Copper (OFC) cable between the amplifier and speakers. The use of ‘exotic” cables has limited improvement on sound quality, so we would not advocate spending great quantities of money. However, if you are prepared to spend a great deal of money in this area, we would strongly advice you listen first to determine whether the outlay is worth the improvement."


http://www.pmc-speakers.com/faq-page#n673

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BBC use their own specified cables for studio and broadcast use.  No daft name-brand nonsense, just specifying the electrical parameters and dielectric type. An example here:

http://www.canford.co.uk/Search?q=bbc

 

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ID. wrote:

mikefarrow wrote:

what is the "industry standard" ?

if enough of us ask, and post replies on here, it will eliminate alot of the "heated debates" on this forum.....

 

ROFL

Oh, you were being serious...    I doubt that anything will eliminate the heated debates other than not mentioning the war.

I don't think there is any consensus in "the industry" either. I'm sure plenty of companies do cables too. I know Linn does. Esoteric also sell pricey cables.

I seem to remember some people noting what manufacturers used when demonstrating their kit at shows, etc.

 

thanks for replies. i've noticed that manufacturers seem to use any cables or supports they can loan/find at shows. i've even seen cd players and amplifiers just placed on the floor ! i would expect them to bring along the same cables and stands used when testing equipment, especially if the demonstration is supposed to highlight their product in its best light !

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hi  i recently  contacted  cyrus audio  regarding this subject.  was informed  that  all units at cyrus are tested with the  bog standard mains lead supplied  its all part of the cyrus sound. ?  intrestiing  eh. 

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english mustard wrote:

hi  i recently  contacted  cyrus audio  regarding this subject.  was informed  that  all units at cyrus are tested with the  bog standard mains lead supplied  its all part of the cyrus sound. ?  intrestiing  eh. 

thanks for reply. did they tell you what interconnects, speaker cable and supports they use as a reference when testing/tuning their kit ?

thanks for input

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As Cyrus markets equipment supports (X-Arbour, Tri-Arbour and Hark), I'd imagine they'd use those (saying that though, when I went to the factory and did some training, they had the 6 and 8 series components lined up on a long table). Cyrus also sold interconnects and speaker cable, and these were used on all the equipment we tested, including the Anniversary equipment (which also had the original versions of the new digital coax cables they now sell).

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Deliriumbassist wrote:

As Cyrus markets equipment supports (X-Arbour, Tri-Arbour and Hark), I'd imagine they'd use those (saying that though, when I went to the factory and did some training, they had the 6 and 8 series components lined up on a long table). Cyrus also sold interconnects and speaker cable, and these were used on all the equipment we tested, including the Anniversary equipment (which also had the original versions of the new digital coax cables they now sell).

thanks for reply - very interesting. 3 equipment support options, i presume all have different "isolation" effects, yet some units are tested on a table !

thanks again.

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Deliriumbassist wrote:
when I went to the factory and did some training, they had the 6 and 8 series components lined up on a long table

Another trade member in hiding, then?

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Oh man, please.... Not another one of these threads with 150+ abusive/insulting posts

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spiny norman wrote:

Deliriumbassist wrote:
when I went to the factory and did some training, they had the 6 and 8 series components lined up on a long table

Another trade member in hiding, then?

 

Suppose it's my fault for not being regular enough that I have to say this every time. I was in the industry- used to work for Superfi. I left nearly a year ago now.

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Deliriumbassist wrote:

spiny norman wrote:

Deliriumbassist wrote:
when I went to the factory and did some training, they had the 6 and 8 series components lined up on a long table

Another trade member in hiding, then?

 

Suppose it's my fault for not being regular enough that I have to say this every time. I was in the industry- used to work for Superfi. I left nearly a year ago now.

your post was very informative - no need to apologize - the kind of info i'm after.

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Deliriumbassist wrote:
Suppose it's my fault for not being regular enough that I have to say this every time. I was in the industry- used to work for Superfi. I left nearly a year ago now.

Ah right, thanks for clarification.

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english mustard wrote:

hi  i recently  contacted  cyrus audio  regarding this subject.  was informed  that  all units at cyrus are tested with the  bog standard mains lead supplied  its all part of the cyrus sound. ?  intrestiing  eh. 

has anybody else contacted a company and asked what cables plus supports they actually use when testing products ?

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Oh, and FWIW, Cyrus use Vienna Acoustics speakers to tune their amps, and vice versa. B&W use Rotel at every point of manufacture of the 800 Series Diamond speakers at the Worthing facility.

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