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RE: Vintage gear

The problem is that this is all in abstract.  I'd love to have Matthew round and see if he finds my setup as deficient as he describes others and if he does to try to understand why.

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lindsayt wrote:

I can fully relate to what Matthewpiano is saying. And I agree with everything he's said. Some hi-fi systems get closer to the magic of a live event than others. A lot closer.

 

It's the naturalness in the midrange. The bass impact. Bass tightness. Treble smoothness combined with bite. Clarity. Low level detail. Generous listening volumes. Sharp-edged transients. Unforced dynamic ease that elevates a system from sounding like a hi-fi to sounding vaguely like a live event. The ability for the system to play the musical perfomance how it actually sounds and not how the system wants to sound.

Sounds remarkably like a good active system to me....... :?

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davedotco wrote:

Sounds remarkably like a good active system to me....... :?

A good system, is a good system....whether Assive or Pactive!

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davedotco wrote:

 

Sounds remarkably like a good active system to me....... :?

Gotta admit, that's exactly what I thought when I read that.

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CnoEvil wrote:

davedotco wrote:

Sounds remarkably like a good active system to me....... :?

A good system, is a good system....whether Assive or Pactive!

Agree entirely.

However in the context of mathews restricted budget (he has no money because he spends it all on old hi-fi junk....... :doh:) it is, in my experience, much easier and less expensive to get beyond the unsatisfying sound of most budget systems by going active rather than by simply buying better passive components.

This is not to suggest that active systems are better than passive systems in all respects but simply an observation that, whatever faults the active system does have, it is not the same fault that passive systems have at the budget level.

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Ha ha, nothing junk about Sansui.

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matthewpiano wrote:

Ha ha, nothing junk about Sansui.

Sansui is the Japenese word for junk...didn't you know?  :roll:  Wink

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I've been down the road of the '70s vintage gear and was never totally satisfied with the sound. But to save money I've been completely satisfied with the sound of gear from the '90s. Seems like there is plenty of good amp and cdp design from the '90s and forward. My 2¢

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