Pretty ... and pretty proud of it
Got this (liked the look)
Garrard 86SB. Apparently in w/o with a Sure Cartridge (MJ75EJ) in good condition ... whatever that means..
Is this thing any good and useable?
How do I get sound out of it? Do I need to buy one of those round black things?
Not sure if you are serious. In the unlikely event it has been carefully maintained it might sound as dreadful as it did when it was new.
You can still get a replacement stylus for the cartridge. And, yes, an LP will sound better than playing the mat.
But only just.
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Are you saying it actually sounds worse than it looks.
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No, it was drummerman...
My sig includes an 86sb. BooHoo. Was/is it really that bad? I have not used it for some time but always felt it was a reasonable deck. BooHoo.I stripped out the auto components back in the 80's and its well oiled. BooHoo
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No really, did get this one.
Story goes like that ... Had a look at Bowie's new release and noticed it is released on vinyl too (with CD included).
Thought if I get that version I probably need something to play it on as the microwave platter probably wouldn't do. I have an aversion to burned plastic but reading into your answers ... I may should have opted for this solution.
Romantic as I am I concluded that a period piece would be appropriate and this little wonder of english technology caught my mascara clad eyes.
I actually quite like the look, especially the, what seems, unusual tone arm.
From the replies I take it this is not the pinnacle of turntable creations ...
I bought mine in late 70's when WHF found it highly recommended. How it stacks up with a modern spinner I have no idea. I tried Shure & AT cartridges finding back then the Shure best. FF15E? M95?? from bad memory. I keep saying I will give it a burn comparing dsotm or Dire Straits with cd/sacd. I will report findings when I get round to it.
I do suggest removing all the auto bits / an ingeniois array of cams & springs. I stripped down the arm and made sure it floated in both planes. I used a test record for bias since the scale markings seemed inaccurate. Ammusing, looking back, the time spent tweaking the deck including rubber glued to the tt and variois felt mats. Nothin much changed then!
Excuse me while I wipe away a tear. I know u understand dm.
... Excuse me while I wipe away a tear. I know u understand dm.
Oh I do.
By the way where is the fast forward button?
Next to Eject!
PS. I think you'll get more from Bowie's CD than by wrecking a beautiful LP with this. A good used Rega or Project should be your realistic minimum for decent LP sound.
DM .... Fast forward, back in the 70's was marked 78 & bass boost marked 16. Nopiano ... disagree. Garrard 86sb knox the sox off any modern tt at a sub 1k price point. Fitted with no5 knitting needle it works a treat. Using ME75ED currently. Fight on ... setting up cd/tt comparison as we speak tho need to put batteries in my hearing aid one day. More boohoo
PS. Where can I source a decent video LP in HD format to compare my BD player?
Joking aside, I had a quick google and although there is not much information it does seem this is not one of the brands better tables. Apparently only 301 and 401's are worth considering.
What I know about turntables fits on the back of a fleas eye ball but I got a few mags here which feature TT tests. To be honest, I never really looked at those until yesterday but one thing I have noticed that measurements of these, which include wide price differences, are all over the place despite 'new' technology ...
Wow/flutter (is that a winning bet?), rumble break through from motors, headshell and arm resoncances are differing widely. Some no better (worse) than turntables made 40 years ago so I dont quite understand where the progress is.
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