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Alex, here are some nice pictures from a Sonus Faber factory tour. From a swedish hifi forum. It starts off with pictures of the city, Vicenza, and continues with pictures from the factory. Try google translate if you want to be able to understand the comments.

http://www.euphonia-audioforum.se/forums/index.php?showtopic=10222&st=0

Amazing link, thanks a lot!

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I just wrote an email to the distributor of Black Ravioli for Benelux, I might get some demo products shipped to Francis' shop...let's hope!

Francis has similar product of a brand called Symposium but they don't look as nice as the BR and they are not cheaper either  :shame:

http://www.technologyfactory.eu/index.php?item=symposium-fat-padz&action=article&group_id=10000218&aid=3314&lang=EN

 

More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

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A little reading, in case it's of interest::

http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volume_8_1/tale-of-four-cables-1-2001.html

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More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

http://www.entreq.com/default.asp?PageId=1924

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acalex wrote:
More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

http://www.entreq.com/default.asp?PageId=1924

Brilliant, they come as a whole family!  :O

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acalex wrote:
More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

http://www.entreq.com/default.asp?PageId=1924

Brilliant, they come as a whole family!  :O

ROFL

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More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

http://www.entreq.com/default.asp?PageId=1924

Thanks for the link to the website! Indeed it's true, when the "thing" is not on top the speaker vibrates, otherwise there is almost not vibration on the speakers but the eater is indeed vibrating a lot...

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No news from Vertere after a very good start...pity. 

I just realised I might be ok with only 1.75mt pair loudspeakers cables so I might even go for the Siltech 550L which are basically the same price as the ones I am trying now (which are 330L but 2,5 mt). 

Interconnect I think I will stick with the 330i for now  :shifty:

Open question is the power chord yet...Shunyata vs Siltech, who is going to win the place in the family?  Dirol

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No news from Vertere after a very good start...pity. 

I just realised I might be ok with only 1.75mt pair loudspeakers cables so I might even go for the Siltech 550L which are basically the same price as the ones I am trying now (which are 330L but 2,5 mt). 

Interconnect I think I will stick with the 330i for now  :shifty:

Open question is the power chord yet...Shunyata vs Siltech, who is going to win the place in the family?  Dirol

Is this silence from Vertere themselves, or their distributor?

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acalex wrote:

No news from Vertere after a very good start...pity. 

I just realised I might be ok with only 1.75mt pair loudspeakers cables so I might even go for the Siltech 550L which are basically the same price as the ones I am trying now (which are 330L but 2,5 mt). 

Interconnect I think I will stick with the 330i for now  :shifty:

Open question is the power chord yet...Shunyata vs Siltech, who is going to win the place in the family?  Dirol

Is this silence from Vertere themselves, or their distributor?

From all of them as everybody was in CC of last email, Vertere and the distributor also. Weird as at the beginning they were super reactive...maybe my last "request" of living with the cables for a while is against their policy...

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acalex wrote:

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acalex wrote:
More will follow on vibration eaters...my girlfriend just went mad for this product and she decided we need to get two to sit on the speakers  :wall:

http://www.entreq.com/default.asp?PageId=1924

Thanks for the link to the website! Indeed it's true, when the "thing" is not on top the speaker vibrates, otherwise there is almost not vibration on the speakers but the eater is indeed vibrating a lot...

 

Really? My speakers don't vibrate at all. I use blu tack onto very heavy stands. That website reads like BS of the highest order. 

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Really? My speakers don't vibrate at all. I use blu tack onto very heavy stands. That website reads like BS of the highest order. 

Maybe "resonate" might be more accurate......doesn't mean it's not B/S of the highest order though.

In my case, preventing "what ever it is" from passing from the speaker into the floor made a difference.

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I just wrote an email to the distributor of Black Ravioli for Benelux, I might get some demo products shipped to Francis' shop...let's hope!

This is good to hear (pun intended! :shifty: )

You need a good selection of the original pads as well as the Big Feet......as they can sound different.

eg. It's quite possible that the ordinary pads will work better on the DS (as in my case) and the Big Feet under the amp.

It is easy to do a blind test (especially on the DS).....get somebody to insert / remove the pads while the listener is "blind", and see if it is possible to tell if they are being inserted or removed.

What I found slightly shocking, was the way the soundstage collapsed when all pads were removed, after being in situ for a day or two.....those were my individual findings, in my system, with a MDS. The ADS is a superior product in every way, including construction, so the cleaner more detailed sound that the Big Feet might bring, could suit the Jadis.

As always, I look forward to your findings.

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acalex wrote:

I just wrote an email to the distributor of Black Ravioli for Benelux, I might get some demo products shipped to Francis' shop...let's hope!

This is good to hear (pun intended! :shifty: )

You need a good selection of the original pads as well as the Big Feet......as they can sound different.

eg. It's quite possible that the ordinary pads will work better on the DS (as in my case) and the Big Feet under the amp.

It is easy to do a blind test (especially on the DS).....get somebody to insert / remove the pads while the listener is "blind", and see if it is possible to tell if they are being inserted or removed.

What I found slightly shocking, was the way the soundstage collapsed when all pads were removed, after being in situ for a day or two.....those were my individual findings, in my system, with a MDS. The ADS is a superior product in every way, including construction, so the cleaner more detailed sound that the Big Feet might bring, could suit the Jadis.

As always, I look forward to your findings.

Hopefully I will be able to get them, not sure though as I usually didn't get an answer yet and the first 24hs are usually crucial when dealing with these kinds of requests in my opinion. I will try to follow up and call them in case as I really would like to see what these nice fatty pads could bring to the mix Smile

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Well, I guess Vertere is not interested anymore as they didn't contact me again after my last mail. Pity as it would have been interesting to compare and I was ready to depart with the money...a missed opportunity!

On the good side, Black ravioli distributor called saying that they will contact Francis to try and ship a few demo products. I explained to them what I am looking for and the type of equipment I have...let's see how they react.

I will report my findings of course! Wink

-4 days to the Akurate!  :cheers:

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