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Too good to be true?
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Apparently not ... $2000, fantastic looking, passive, open baffle, 100dB sensitivity, 20 year warranty .... best in show in US (AXPONA 2014)

.... wonder if these'll ever make it over here  :pray:

PS They're called Spatial Audio M2 Hologram

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RE: Too good to be true?

People are very impressed with Spatial Audio. One fellow audiophile replaced his WIlson Alexandrias with a pair of SA's at much lower cost and double the pleasure. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvmNDKYrRoY

 

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Vladimir wrote:

People are very impressed with Spatial Audio. One fellow audiophile replaced his WIlson Alexandrias with a pair of SA's at much lower cost and double the pleasure. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvmNDKYrRoY

 

they are not finish like this, are they???? :?

might sound the biz, but dear lord they look like this chap from the 70's...

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Reminds me a bit of the Maggie MMG which I don't think we can get here, but used to cost less than a thousand USD.  Always struck me as potentially much nicer than a tall box.

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Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

Vladimir wrote:

People are very impressed with Spatial Audio. One fellow audiophile replaced his WIlson Alexandrias with a pair of SA's at much lower cost and double the pleasure. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvmNDKYrRoY

 

they are not finish like this, are they???? :?

might sound the biz, but dear lord they look like this chap from the 70's...

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Think you're being very disrespectful to the Anglia lol. More character than the Euroboxes on the road nowadays. Oh and it wasn't a 70s car.

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MajorFubar wrote:

Hi-FiOutlaw wrote:

Vladimir wrote:

People are very impressed with Spatial Audio. One fellow audiophile replaced his WIlson Alexandrias with a pair of SA's at much lower cost and double the pleasure. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvmNDKYrRoY

 

they are not finish like this, are they???? :?

might sound the biz, but dear lord they look like this chap from the 70's...

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Think you're being very disrespectful to the Anglia lol. More character than the Euroboxes on the road nowadays. Oh and it wasn't a 70s car.

sorry, but they were so popular in Portugal in the 70's, so...

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What's the difference between the open baffle design with a few exposed wires and the back of your average AV rack?  Wink

You mostly will look at and listen to the speakers from the front.

 

 

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What's the difference between the open baffle design with a few exposed wires and the back of your average AV rack?  Wink

You mostly will look at and listen to the speakers from the front.

 

 

The fact that most of us can't see behind our racks may have something to do with it any more than seeing the back of a fridge or cooker Smile

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I think they look splendid: very sleek and minimalist. I hope they reach our shores soon.

The high sensitivity is enticing. They should be easy to drive.

Although they're not that big, they may be a challenge to many UK homes. Like dipoles, they probably need quite a bit of clearance to the back and sides. And the modern look won't go well with UK standard-issue chintz and woodchip.

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I think they look splendid: very sleek and minimalist. I hope they reach our shores soon.

The high sensitivity is enticing. They should be easy to drive.

Although they're not that big, they may be a challenge to many UK homes. Like dipoles, they probably need quite a bit of clearance to the back and sides. And the modern look won't go well with UK standard-issue chintz and woodchip.

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Apparently they need 18 inch wall clearance (according to the designer) and reading the US reports, they were remarkably tolerant of room size and room interaction.

I agree they look fab, like a skinny Avantgarde Acoustic Zero.

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matt49 wrote:

I think they look splendid: very sleek and minimalist. I hope they reach our shores soon.

The high sensitivity is enticing. They should be easy to drive.

Although they're not that big, they may be a challenge to many UK homes. Like dipoles, they probably need quite a bit of clearance to the back and sides. And the modern look won't go well with UK standard-issue chintz and woodchip.

Matt

Actually, being Di-Pole speakers they will work very well up against side walls due to the figure-of-8 radiation pattern, but as you say, will need some space behind them.

Interesting though, I have had the Magnepan MMG mentioned too, lovely speakers and at $599 great value over in the USA but by the time you get them here its about £750, still good value but ex-demo MG12s can be had around £900-£1k.

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 They look unusual but very nice and I would love to hear a pair if they ever reach the UK ,  if they sound like their name then I would have no hesitation buying a pair . Smile

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Actually, being Di-Pole speakers they will work very well up against side walls due to the figure-of-8 radiation pattern, but as you say, will need some space behind them.

Yes, you're right, some dipoles don't mind being close to side walls. I was thinking of Martin Logans. This mixed message is from the manual for my speakers:

Martin Logan wrote:
A good rule of thumb is to have the side walls as far away from the speaker sides as possible. However, Martin Logan’s unique controlled dispersion electrostatic transducer inherently minimizes side wall reflections—a position as little as two feet from the side walls often proves adequate. Sometimes, if the system is bright or the imaging is not to your liking, and the side walls are very near, try putting curtains or softening material directly to the edge of each speaker. An ideal side wall, however, is no side wall at all.

But it seems the speakers in questions aren't picky, which is good.

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10 mins with a bag of cable ties would work wonders for reliability - Just catching the cable at the bottom would pull off all the tagged connections to the drivers? Surely that’s a picture of the pre-production product? My childrens science experiments they have brought home in the past show more thought in wiring.

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hoopsontoast wrote:

Actually, being Di-Pole speakers they will work very well up against side walls due to the figure-of-8 radiation pattern, but as you say, will need some space behind them.

Yes, you're right, some dipoles don't mind being close to side walls. I was thinking of Martin Logans. This mixed message is from the manual for my speakers:

Martin Logan wrote:
A good rule of thumb is to have the side walls as far away from the speaker sides as possible. However, Martin Logan’s unique controlled dispersion electrostatic transducer inherently minimizes side wall reflections—a position as little as two feet from the side walls often proves adequate. Sometimes, if the system is bright or the imaging is not to your liking, and the side walls are very near, try putting curtains or softening material directly to the edge of each speaker. An ideal side wall, however, is no side wall at all.

But it seems the speakers in questions aren't picky, which is good.

Matt

Ah ah thats beacuse the ML speakers usually use a dynamic driver in a sealed/ported enclosure for bass, so are not true Di-Pole speakers at bass frequencys, only for the mid-treble.

Any true Di-Pole like Magnepan, Quad ESL, Apogee or Dyanamic Open baffles like the Jamo R909 for example, will all be happy close to side walls, like the speakers in the OP.

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10 mins with a bag of cable ties would work wonders for reliability - Just catching the cable at the bottom would pull off all the tagged connections to the drivers? Surely that’s a picture of the pre-production product? My childrens science experiments they have brought home in the past show more thought in wiring.

There’s a shot (about 1.05 in) of the rear of the speaker in the video Vlad linked to and it doesn’t look much different to the photo.

 

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