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The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

Let's be honest, these new AVIs are going to be difficult to move.

They're a big step back in functionality over the others in the range., no DAC, no slave system, no optical inputs etc.

They only have XLR input. This means if you want more than one input, you'll need a preamp. Box count increases by 1.

They do not offer the speaker trimming options of their competition. Even the basic Yamaha HS5 offers this.

above all, there is a lot of competition at this end of the market from many well-known brands.

Add to this the AVI policy  of preferring to sell unheard, and I think there is a problem.

If they had airplay, all might be well, or a better spec, again all might be well, but my guess is there will be a lot of marketing difficulties. Quite why AVI chose to take a step back I'm not sure. Frankly, if you want to go that path, you're better off going with the 9s, which have good specs - and decent Scanspeak drivers.

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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PP. Youve completely misunderstood. 

 

It was to clear the rubbish from the active speakers thread. Chebby could just as easily called this the BS thread. 

Yeah, but why Chebby? Could you not of started this thread yourself? Let's face it there's an awful lot of rubbish and prejudice, bickering, claims and counter-claims on most threads.

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AVI prefer to sell direct, not unheard. There is a difference and they're always happy to welcome anyone who wants to listen. Or point you to the 2 or 3 dealers who stock their products.

It looks like the ADM5 will have two versions - XLR or phono, for two separate markets. 

I can't comment on the headphone output of the AEX but the current one sounds good plugged direct into the line input of my amplifier. Is the line output intended for headphones? 

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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Perhaps a truce is in order: let's all respect each others opinion and just enjoy what we each have.

 

You might be new Andy, but we've been over this all before.  Tried a truce earlier this year I think, or maybe end of last year.  Didn't stop Maxflinn - who had agreed as one of the participants - from signing up under one of his many bogus identities and messing around again.  Didn't stop the sniping or the superiority attitude, didn't stop it bar for a few weeks, but one look under the HDD Audio bonnet and you can see the true nature of some of the people involved as that's where the real face comes out.  

ADM-pick-your-number are not the last word in high quality audio.  They're good, maybe even great, but not class leading.  To be told that they are the best and outstrip anything else on the market or be told (as in my case by Maxflinn) that my speakers couldn't possibly do deeper bass notes when he hasn't heard them just amplifies the point.  A bunch of noisy irritants many of whom have little or no experience outwith what they read via Google or get from the AJ and I have zero patience with it anymore.

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I thought an admin might, and move stuff over. 

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably. 

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't. 

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

lecson wrote:
AVI prefer to sell direct, not unheard.

90% of purchasers do so without hearing them (manufacturer's figures).

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Let's be honest, these new AVIs are going to be difficult to move.

Yeah, I'm sure you're right AL. They'll probably be a complete flop, just like all their previous efforts.  ohhh sure

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Andy-F73 wrote:

Perhaps a truce is in order: let's all respect each others opinion and just enjoy what we each have.

 

You might be new Andy, but we've been over this all before.  Tried a truce earlier this year I think, or maybe end of last year.  Didn't stop Maxflinn - who had agreed as one of the participants - from signing up under one of his many bogus identities and messing around again.  Didn't stop the sniping or the superiority attitude, didn't stop it bar for a few weeks, but one look under the HDD Audio bonnet and you can see the true nature of some of the people involved as that's where the real face comes out.  

ADM-pick-your-number are not the last word in high quality audio.  They're good, maybe even great, but not class leading.  To be told that they are the best and outstrip anything else on the market or be told (as in my case by Maxflinn) that my speakers couldn't possibly do deeper bass notes when he hasn't heard them just amplifies the point.  A bunch of noisy irritants many of whom have little or no experience outwith what they read via Google or get from the AJ and I have zero patience with it anymore.

 

Fair enough and each to their own I guess ... I've not heard the DC4's so can't compare them against my ADM's but have heard the Onkyo you have I thought it was more than capable! 

 

There is always going to be differences of opinion on all forums and whilst some of it is entertaining it does become tiresome at times.  It's frustrating when various discussions descend into petty squabbles but that's life, as they say! 

 

 

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I thought an admin might, and move stuff over. 

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably. 

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't. 

 

i frequent HDD and can honestly say Richard comes across as a decent bloke who loves his music and the ADM's ... 

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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I thought an admin might, and move stuff over. 

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably. 

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't. 

I'm sure if had put your concerns about it being moved to the "Active thread" in the original post they would be agreeable.

Unfortunately, the shear nature of all forums is that people try and look for ulterior motives.

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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richardw42 wrote:

I thought an admin might, and move stuff over.

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably.

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't.

I'm sure if had put your concerns about it being moved to the "Active thread" in the original post they would be agreeable.

Unfortunately, the shear nature of all forums is that people try and look for ulterior motives.

We can't split threads any more. Chebby created a new one. There is no conspiracy FFS.

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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richardw42 wrote:

I thought an admin might, and move stuff over.

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably.

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't.

 

i frequent HDD and can honestly say Richard comes across as a decent bloke who loves his music and the ADM's ...

Agreed. So that's *one*... Wink

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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plastic penguin wrote:

richardw42 wrote:

I thought an admin might, and move stuff over.

 

Cynical motive : NO, Naive : probably.

 

Trouble is people are searching for agendas or ulterior motives when there really isn't.

I'm sure if had put your concerns about it being moved to the "Active thread" in the original post they would be agreeable.

Unfortunately, the shear nature of all forums is that people try and look for ulterior motives.

We can't split threads any more. Chebby created a new one. There is no conspiracy FFS.

I know there's no conspiracy, that wasn't my point. How does one split a new thread? Richard could've done the same thing as Chebby with the same result.

Spooky. Wink

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

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Fair enough and each to their own I guess ... I've not heard the DC4's so can't compare them against my ADM's but have heard the Onkyo you have I thought it was more than capable! 

There is always going to be differences of opinion on all forums and whilst some of it is entertaining it does become tiresome at times.  It's frustrating when various discussions descend into petty squabbles but that's life, as they say! 

 

 

It's not a direct comparison with AVI speakers I'm interested in, but that I picked these speakers specifically to work in my room, where they sit close in, maybe a ittle over 6 feet away.  In those situations, they deliver what they (and I, for I have neighbours) need; articulate bass, a good but not shouty treble, and a very fine midrange.  I've had bigger speakers before (Mission 752) which had more scale at volume, but that was in a much bigger room so you'd expect that.  So, to then be told that they can't then "do bass" (pretty ironic all things considered) when nobody else from here's heard them in my room got the response it deserved.

Sure, there'll be differences of opinion, but I find the disrespect of some people not respecting others' choices fundamental to this whole thing.  The cheap shots are just an unnecessary icing on the cake and when they come from people who are informed secondhand, I by and large don't accept that as good etiquette.  

You could throw Ashley James into the mix here; if he had a little more respect to his peers and maybe follow the example set by AEJim from Acoustic Energy and the like, then he might get some mileage.  As it is, he doesn't, maybe he doesn't want any, but that's his personal choice.  So, AVI have some new speakers on the market.  Oh whoop.  I should and would love to support a British brand bringing some innovation to the marketplace (well, the ADM9 series anyway), but I'm happy to give this particular one a pass.

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RE: The new AVI ADM5 active loudspeakers.

I'm not quite sure why anyone would consider the ADM5s to be a potential flop. They are in essence, no different to any other hifi active speaker really, but they are probably not far off the cheapest.

They are not going to have any limitations for use that other hifi actives don't have either, so there success will be even more largely determined on merit, with quality and value for money being the driving forces for success in this case. The ADM9s are a bit more special, being pretty much a complete system and so would have perhaps a slightly different appeal.

They look great to me and I'm sure they'll sound great.

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