......as are specs...because we are all too silly to understand them.
I've sold the pair of Adm's I had as I despise the way this company do "business".
Probably best do that now since second hand values are going to plummet, what with the 5s being better than anything else in the range apart from the RSSs. Or actually better than them. Or not better than them. And when you switch from the ADM40s you don't notice the difference. Until you go back to the ADM40s, which are of course better. So in other words they're as good as the third-string model in the range, but are still 1,000 times better than all others in the world. And they don't need bass because there is no bass in real music (except when there is, in which case there's a sub for that - just not these ones).
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Must be listening to music on this system that is only 0.001% as good.
Funnily enough I'm listening to Talk Talks "Laughing Stock" at the moment. Which seems quite apt.
I think that these new baby ADM's are likely to do very well. They're competitively priced and look very smart with what is IMO perfect proportions for a compact bookshelf speaker. If they really do sound better than the old ADM9T's then these are going to be great and at £700 will offer exceptionally good value for money.*
Sound wise I obviously haven't heard them yet but based on AVI's track record I have little reason to doubt Ash's claims. I've heard a couple of AVI's older speakers and have never been anything but impressed by their sound quality and value for money which is due partly through sensible design by Martin Grinrod and partly through Ashley's direct selling business model (which he claims enables them to sell their speakers for half the price that they would be if they were selling them in shops).
* Being a fully signed up member of the AVI fanboy club it's inevitable that I'm going to end up sounding biased but I do always try and keep my comments fair and objective. And FWIW I'm also looking forward to hearing/seeing the new Acoustic Energy active speakers too and based on their track record I fully expect those to sound great too.
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I must say the ADM5s do look very good, but the aggressiveness surrounding the company (on both sides) puts me off. I just wish there was a lot more humility and let the speakers do the talking.
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While I think it's a shame that AVI couldn't fit a remote control pre-amp and DAC inside these small enclosures I don't think that it will be a big deal. There are lots of cheap (and expensive) hifi quality sources that can be used with regular active speakers.
1. The Behringer UCA-202 at just £30 is probably the cheapest DAC/pre-amp which will offer true high fidelity sound quality.
2. There are also the more conventional hifi DAC/pre-amps such as the Beresford DAC's or the Cambridge Audio DACmagic Plus.
3. The Sonos Connect or a Logitech Squeezebox Touch would make a perfect 'all in one' source and pre-amp for active speakers.
4. You can also use any AV reciever which has 'analogue pre-outs' as a DAC and pre-amp.
5. There are some hifi streamers and CD players which include a DAC and pre-amp such as the Audiolab 8200CDQ or the Cambridge Audio Stream Magic 6.
6. There are also dozens and dozens of DAC/pre-amps available from the pro-audio world too.
7. Ashley James even claims that the headphone output from his Phillips TV is audiably indistinguishable from a hifi DAC/pre-amp.
8. Even the iPhone or some of the good quality MP3 players offer genuine high fidelity sound quality from their analogue headphone outputs and can be plugged straight into a pair of active speakers.
As you can see from this comprehensive list there is no shortage of good quality affordable DAC's and pre-amps that can be used with regular active speakers.
EDIT - I forgot to include the Sonos and Squeezebox.
I am an owner of a pair of ADM 9.1T's with the corresponding sub and I am both happy with the product and happy in which the way AVI conduct it's business.
It's fair to say that this company divides opinion and that's dissapointing, I bet if everyone met for a beer things could be quite different.
For me the ADM approach is one that should be applauded for it's technical excellence.
Started at the request of Richard42 to keep discussion of this new product seperate from the 'Active speakers club' thread.
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Then we better start lining up a few others for a good hand clap as well then Andy...
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If I did that for every company that I thought conducted its business in an unethical way I'd be sat in a field with no clothes on.
Although I do excercise that choice with a few brands...such as Apple and to a lesser extent, Amazon.
I try to buy products that haven't been tested on animals or have come through sweatshops and near-slave labour.
But you have chosen to avoid a company because of a couple of loudmouths. Well done. You lose the internet.
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Funnily enough I'm listening to Pink Floyd's 'Sheep' at the moment. Which seems rather apposite.
'And so on February 22nd 1966, at Luton airport...'
I agree. What I do not agree with is the suggestion from the manufacturer that they are the last remaining bastion of such excellence, or that this - and I say this having listened to the 9.1something (I lose track) as well as many, many other systems - translates into undeniable audio superiority, and that anyone who disagrees with this view is deaf, stupid or an industry stooge.
Perhaps a truce is in order: let's all respect each others opinion and just enjoy what we each have.
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